Help with running Speakup on Kali Linux

Janina Sajka janina at rednote.net
Thu Feb 1 08:53:30 EST 2018


You have a choice. Currently, there's only Ubuntu and two Suse variants,
but they've promissed to expand their offerings. See this article:

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2017/05/11/new-distros-coming-to-bashwsl-via-windows-store/

I've heard rumors of more--like Arch.

I'm currently running Ubuntu in a recently installed Windows 10 on a
2014 era Mac Airbook BootCamp partition. Biggest disappointment so far
is no audio support--it's simply not wired in.

Janina


Glenn At Home writes:
> Does anyone know which Linux Microsoft is running in the command shell in 
> Windows 10?
> I wonder if the Windows screenreader works like it does in a regular windows 
> command shell, or if SpeakUp needs to be installed.
> Glenn
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Don Raikes" <DON.RAIKES at ORACLE.COM>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup at linux-speakup.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 10:41 AM
> Subject: RE: Help with running Speakup on Kali Linux
> 
> 
> Another option and one which I have used for learning the console-based kali 
> tools and to get familiar with Linux in general would be to run kali in a 
> docker container.  If you use jaws or nvda on windows, you can run a 
> kalilinux docker container and interact with it using the windows 
> screenreader.
> 
> I know that takes things like Speakup and brltty out of the mix, but it is a 
> quick and dirty solution.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina at rednote.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 8:15 AM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup at linux-speakup.org>
> Subject: Re: Help with running Speakup on Kali Linux
> 
> I would further suggest that whatever gui-based security tools Kali provides 
> may, or may not be accessible to use.
> 
> Regardless, they're all going to drive configurations you can access from 
> the console. A short, not necessarily comprehensive list off the top of my 
> head would include:
> 
> selinux and it's settings
> iptables and ip6tables
> journalctl (for log access)
> 
> Work the above with grep and maybe awk, and you'll be a power user before 
> long regardless of what some gui tool might, or might not do.
> You'll be doing more, actually.
> 
> So, the notion to get Speakup working on the console is absolutely the right 
> notion. If you have a braille display you can add into the mix, absolutely 
> check out brltty. The two would make a highly persuasive combination, and 
> you a security expert if you stick to it and read the source texts.
> 
> What you will NOT have is data visualization. For that I'm afraid the 
> solutions are a bit more expirimental, though there is sonification that 
> might help. How to do that on Linux, I don't know, but I think I know who to 
> send you to to ask. So, speak up, as it were! <grin>
> 
> Just my suggestion.
> 
> Janina
> 
> Zachary Kline writes:
> > >From personal experience, ArchLinux is just about as good a command-line 
> > >environment as you’re likely to get. The TalkingArch CD works very well 
> > >for installing, and you’re left with a setup which is minimal and easy to 
> > >learn from.
> > I highly recommend you switch to trying to mess with that.
> >
> > > On Jan 30, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Timothy Breitenfeldt 
> > > <timothyjb310 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > That is good to know. I was afraid that a lot of the tools were not
> > > command line based. Oh well. perhaps I will just set up an arch
> > > linux vm and play with that.
> > >
> > > I would still like to learn how to setup speakup, but Kali is
> > > probably not the best to do that with.
> > >
> > > Thanks for all of the replies,
> > >
> > > TJ Breitenfeldt
> > >
> > > On 1/30/18, Don Raikes <DON.RAIKES at oracle.com> wrote:
> > >> Tim,
> > >>
> > >> A lot of kali's tools need to be run from the GUI, My personal
> > >> preference is to use the mate desktop but that is because I got
> > >> started in Linux under the old gnome 2 interface and haven't gotten
> > >> used to the new unity/gnome3 interface.
> > >>
> > >> Unfortunately when I installed kali into a vm I couldn't get mate
> > >> with orca to work, so I am trying to debug that problem.
> 
> ... Trimmed to meet the list's reqs ...
> 
> -- 
> 
> Janina Sajka
> 
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Janina Sajka

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