Help with running Speakup on Kali Linux

Thu Feb 1 09:13:05 EST 2018

Funny you mention this, I just installed it last night myself. My use case is probably a bit less serious than most, and I still have my full Linux system(s), but it’s still a nice thing to have around.

> On Feb 1, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Janina Sajka <janina at rednote.net> wrote:
> 
> You have a choice. Currently, there's only Ubuntu and two Suse variants,
> but they've promissed to expand their offerings. See this article:
> 
> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2017/05/11/new-distros-coming-to-bashwsl-via-windows-store/
> 
> I've heard rumors of more--like Arch.
> 
> I'm currently running Ubuntu in a recently installed Windows 10 on a
> 2014 era Mac Airbook BootCamp partition. Biggest disappointment so far
> is no audio support--it's simply not wired in.
> 
> Janina
> 
> 
> Glenn At Home writes:
>> Does anyone know which Linux Microsoft is running in the command shell in 
>> Windows 10?
>> I wonder if the Windows screenreader works like it does in a regular windows 
>> command shell, or if SpeakUp needs to be installed.
>> Glenn
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Don Raikes" <DON.RAIKES at ORACLE.COM>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>> <speakup at linux-speakup.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 10:41 AM
>> Subject: RE: Help with running Speakup on Kali Linux
>> 
>> 
>> Another option and one which I have used for learning the console-based kali 
>> tools and to get familiar with Linux in general would be to run kali in a 
>> docker container.  If you use jaws or nvda on windows, you can run a 
>> kalilinux docker container and interact with it using the windows 
>> screenreader.
>> 
>> I know that takes things like Speakup and brltty out of the mix, but it is a 
>> quick and dirty solution.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina at rednote.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 8:15 AM
>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup at linux-speakup.org>
>> Subject: Re: Help with running Speakup on Kali Linux
>> 
>> I would further suggest that whatever gui-based security tools Kali provides 
>> may, or may not be accessible to use.
>> 
>> Regardless, they're all going to drive configurations you can access from 
>> the console. A short, not necessarily comprehensive list off the top of my 
>> head would include:
>> 
>> selinux and it's settings
>> iptables and ip6tables
>> journalctl (for log access)
>> 
>> Work the above with grep and maybe awk, and you'll be a power user before 
>> long regardless of what some gui tool might, or might not do.
>> You'll be doing more, actually.
>> 
>> So, the notion to get Speakup working on the console is absolutely the right 
>> notion. If you have a braille display you can add into the mix, absolutely 
>> check out brltty. The two would make a highly persuasive combination, and 
>> you a security expert if you stick to it and read the source texts.
>> 
>> What you will NOT have is data visualization. For that I'm afraid the 
>> solutions are a bit more expirimental, though there is sonification that 
>> might help. How to do that on Linux, I don't know, but I think I know who to 
>> send you to to ask. So, speak up, as it were! <grin>
>> 
>> Just my suggestion.
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
>> Zachary Kline writes:
>>>> From personal experience, ArchLinux is just about as good a command-line 
>>>> environment as you’re likely to get. The TalkingArch CD works very well 
>>>> for installing, and you’re left with a setup which is minimal and easy to 
>>>> learn from.
>>> I highly recommend you switch to trying to mess with that.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 30, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Timothy Breitenfeldt 
>>>> <timothyjb310 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> That is good to know. I was afraid that a lot of the tools were not
>>>> command line based. Oh well. perhaps I will just set up an arch
>>>> linux vm and play with that.
>>>> 
>>>> I would still like to learn how to setup speakup, but Kali is
>>>> probably not the best to do that with.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for all of the replies,
>>>> 
>>>> TJ Breitenfeldt
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/30/18, Don Raikes <DON.RAIKES at oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>> Tim,
>>>>> 
>>>>> A lot of kali's tools need to be run from the GUI, My personal
>>>>> preference is to use the mate desktop but that is because I got
>>>>> started in Linux under the old gnome 2 interface and haven't gotten
>>>>> used to the new unity/gnome3 interface.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unfortunately when I installed kali into a vm I couldn't get mate
>>>>> with orca to work, so I am trying to debug that problem.
>> 
>> ... Trimmed to meet the list's reqs ...
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> Janina Sajka
>> 
>> Linux Foundation Fellow
>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: 
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> Janina Sajka
> 
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> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
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