speakup, audio solutions

Janina Sajka janina at rednote.net
Mon Dec 2 12:37:49 EST 2013


Pulse may be some people's idea of the wave of the future, but Speakup
users aren't the only ones who find pulse very problematic. Also in this
category are:

*	People who do professional level work with audio composition.
*	These folks use jack, not pulseaudio. Jack was rejected for use
*	as a mainstream approach because it wasn't sufficiently
*	lightweight. I'll leave for others to judge whether pulse is
*	actually lightweight

	I've had conversations with Planet CCRMA people, for instance,
	so that I can categorically report that pulse is removed from
	all their computers at Stanford University. It only gets in the
	way.

	http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/

*	People running games, where latency really matters. Of course,
*	latency also matters to us.

This second point may be an architectural failure on the part of pulse.
Well, what can I say? They never asked our requirements before they
designed and implemented pulse, so how can it be assumed that our
requirements are met? It's the old: "Nothing about us without us" that
got violated again.

Janina


John G. Heim writes:
> I'm no expert in this area but don't you guys worry that you are
> trying to hold back the ocean with a teaspoon?  You can't fight the
> march of technology. If pulse is the wave of the future, I would
> tend to want to get started working with it rather than tossing it
> aside.
> 
> I just started working with sonar linux last week. I put it on my
> backup desktop at work. In my limited testing up to this point, it
> seems to be rock solid. I plan to continue trying it on my backup
> workstation at work and on my machine at home for a few more days
> before converting the machine I use to earn my bread and beer.
> 
> I can understand an attitude of saying that you need to postpone an
> upgrade because the technology just isn't there yet. That's why I'm
> typing this message on a machine still running debian squeeze.  But
> as soon as I am sure I can switch to a newer distro that works, I'm
> doing it.
> 
> On 11/30/13 22:38, Janina Sajka wrote:
> >Yes, screen rocks!
> >
> >I do keep the gui, mainly for firefox even though it requires that I use
> >a second audio device.
> >
> >Everything else is tty's and screen terminals. About half of my tty's
> >launch subject specific screen sessions with multiple terminals. In all
> >of those, I have aliases for mplayer to talk to several additional audio
> >devices, or ecaplay, or aplay. All works like a charm.
> >
> >Janina
> >
> >Doug Smith writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>I really have quit a bit to say here.  I have also terminated pulse with extreme prejudice on this system.  I have also terminated the entire
> >>graphical user interface with the same finality.  I am using debian testing without the desktop on it.
> >>
> >>The way it works is that, when you use the text-based installer to install the system, it uses alsa for the sound.  I have speakup system wide and I
> >>have a fully functioning sound system on here that performs perfectly.  I can use multiple audio sources, and I have nothing to worry about because I
> >>do not have to, if I do not want to, switch between consoles.  Where it works well, I just use screen and there is no problem for me to play my
> >>descriptive movie, program and whatever else all at once.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Hope this helps.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>Doug Smith: Special Agent
> >>S.W.A.T  Spiritual Warfare and Advanced Technology
> >>Forever serving our LORD and SAVIOUR, JESUS CHRIST.
> >>
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> >
> 
> -- 
> ---
> John G. Heim, 608-263-4189, jheim at math.wisc.edu

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Janina Sajka,	Phone:	+1.443.300.2200
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Linux Foundation Fellow
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The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
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