Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

Marcel Oats moats at orcon.net.nz
Sat Jan 21 03:28:55 EST 2012 

Hi, I have had to run the latest grml2hd from
/etc/shared/grml2hd
I believe, though this may not be the correct path.  It would appear that 
you are not able to run it from anywhere anymore.

Also, I get frustrated at the fact that they are not running the same script 
to initialize or unmute the soundcard that they do when you boot the live 
cd, as sound is muted on a fresh grml2hd installation.

Marcel


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From: "Justin Harford" <blindstein at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 7:08 PM
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

> Hi there
>
> Well I tried
>
> grml2hd
>
> and it said that the command was not recognized.
>
> It looks like the install process has changed over the last few years 
> though. My process did not look anything like what Michael Whapples did in 
> 2008.
>
> It looks like I have a system set up now, but I cannot seem to figure out 
> how to turn on speakup. I tried what worked in the live cd:
>
> modprobe speakup_soft
> espeakup
>
> But no beans.
>
> It does not recognize the command espeakup.
>
> Regards
> Justin Harford
> On 20-01-2012, at 21:20, Robert cole wrote:
>
>> Hello, Justin.
>>
>> Yes, the script is called grml2hd. I haven't tried it as I do not have a 
>> hard drive to install to. I may try it under VirtualBox.
>>
>> On 01/20/2012 07:55 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>>> gmrl or grml?
>>>
>>> I was following the audio tutorial, and that option did not work for me. 
>>> And in their FAQ, it did not sound like it was available. Maybe I didn't 
>>> read it right.
>>>
>>> I ended up running grml-debootstrap
>>>
>>> I hope it's not too much of a pain lol. Why would it be?
>>>
>>> Justin
>>> On 20-01-2012, at 19:31, Kelly Prescott wrote:
>>>
>>>> I always use gmrl2hd and it works good for me...
>>>> I have a acer netbook ad another little one that I cannot think of the 
>>>> brand
>>>> of.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca 
>>>> [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca]
>>>> On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:27 PM
>>>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>
>>>> They do have a gRML2hd, but I've never managed to get that working, so 
>>>> good
>>>> luck. I always just used debootstrap and installed Debian, but that's 
>>>> kind
>>>> of a pain.
>>>> On 1/20/2012 7:14 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>>>>> I actually downloaded this to take a look. I waited for the jingle and
>>>>> typed
>>>>>
>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>> followed by
>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>
>>>>> and after I pressed enter it did eventually come up speaking, but it 
>>>>> had
>>>> an error saying that it could not access a certain source, but I just
>>>> pressed return and it started working, review keys etc.
>>>>> Now I'm just looking for how to install it on the hard drive 
>>>>> partition. In
>>>> the FAQ of GRML, it looks as though it is not obvious.
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Justin Harford
>>>>> On 20-01-2012, at 16:14, Glenn wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>>>> I tried these, as they sound like the same as Orca, but nothing came 
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> when navigating with those keys.
>>>>>> It must be that I did all on the same line to call up espeak.
>>>>>> Glenn
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry at gotss.net>
>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for
>>>> Linux."<speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 2:07 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> obviously modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>> are 2 separate commands you run after hitting q to exit the grml
>>>>>> quickstart wizard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once speech is loaded you can use the speakup review commands to get
>>>>>> around the screen. to get keyboard echo you echo 1
>>>>>>> /sys/accessibility/speakup/key_echo or similar it is in there 
>>>>>>> somewhere.
>>>>>> to move by lines use capslock u i o, words are j k l and characters m 
>>>>>> ,
>>>>>> and .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> capslock and the numbers do volume, pitch and speed.
>>>>>> There is a help key can't remember what it is but there is 
>>>>>> documentation
>>>>>> on linux-speakup.org somewhere with all the key bindings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards, Kerry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20/01/2012 12:41 PM, Glenn wrote:
>>>>>>> Kerry,
>>>>>>> I downloaded the 32 bit version of GRML, and used the USB installer 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>> it onto my 4GB thumbdrive.
>>>>>>> I ran:
>>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft espeakup
>>>>>>> And I got speech, but it does not echo my typing, nor can I find a 
>>>>>>> way
>>>> of
>>>>>>> reviewing what is on the screen.
>>>>>>> I am familiar with Orca, in Ubuntu, but this has me stumped.
>>>>>>> This is on an Asus ePc which runs XP okay, I don't remember if I
>>>> upgraded
>>>>>>> the RAM to 1GB or 2GB, but either way, it should be enough.
>>>>>>> How do I control the speech better?
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry at gotss.net>
>>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for
>>>> Linux."<speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:48 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Speakup is included however the accessability boot options are gone.
>>>>>>> Boot the cd, wait for the beeps from the speaker, hit q to exit the
>>>>>>> quick config screen then key in
>>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You should get speech.
>>>>>>> Options to load into ram still exist on the cheatsheet as far as I 
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> tell and you can still do
>>>>>>> <tab>    ssh=password
>>>>>>> to get an ssh server running on the box.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards, kerry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/01/2012 10:11 AM, Marcel Oats wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse me. 
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> just downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and 
>>>>>>>> noticed
>>>>>>>> that their "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no longer
>>>>>>>> available. They do not mention speakup support in their list of 
>>>>>>>> boot
>>>>>>>> options.
>>>>>>>> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into ram and 
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> it run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional 
>>>>>>>> programmes
>>>>>>>> that I have included are available, and we have software speech,
>>>> instead
>>>>>>>> of having to rely on a hardware synth.
>>>>>>>> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is 
>>>>>>>> possible
>>>> to
>>>>>>>> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for Linux and
>>>>>>>> create BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Marcel
>>>>>>>>
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