Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

Robert cole rkcole72984 at gmail.com
Sat Jan 21 01:49:34 EST 2012 

Hello, Jeremy.


I actually installed the grml2usb package in my Ubuntu system and it 
worked just fine. It is actually what I used to create my live GRML USB 
system with, as UNetbootin's menu was a beast. When I say a "beast", I 
mean that it displayed every possible boot option for each architecture, 
as I used the hybrid image). It was awful! But grml2usb worked just fine.

On 01/20/2012 10:36 PM, jeremy wrote:
> You weren't wrong, it used to be there. I unfortunately never had much 
> luck getting an install to complete, wen it was. Makes me wonder if 
> the grml2usb option still works as it should?
> Take care.
>
> On 1/21/2012 12:27 AM, Robert cole wrote:
>> Hello, Justin.
>>
>> You know...I just looked at the GRML FAQ, and it looks like there is 
>> a way to install GRML to a hard drive, but they do not explain how to 
>> do so there. And apparently it is not supported. So the only 
>> straightforward approach is that of installing a straight Debian 
>> system using grml-debootstrap.
>>
>> I am just guessing, then, that the edition of Debian which is 
>> installed does not contain the espeakup package installed...I am not 
>> sure. If I can do it tonight, I'll try and install it in a virtual 
>> machine and see what happens.
>>
>> I could have sworn I saw a grml2hd script mentioned somewhere. Sorry 
>> about that.
>>
>> On 01/20/2012 10:08 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>>> Hi there
>>>
>>> Well I tried
>>>
>>> grml2hd
>>>
>>> and it said that the command was not recognized.
>>>
>>> It looks like the install process has changed over the last few 
>>> years though. My process did not look anything like what Michael 
>>> Whapples did in 2008.
>>>
>>> It looks like I have a system set up now, but I cannot seem to 
>>> figure out how to turn on speakup. I tried what worked in the live cd:
>>>
>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>> espeakup
>>>
>>> But no beans.
>>>
>>> It does not recognize the command espeakup.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Justin Harford
>>> On 20-01-2012, at 21:20, Robert cole wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello, Justin.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the script is called grml2hd. I haven't tried it as I do not 
>>>> have a hard drive to install to. I may try it under VirtualBox.
>>>>
>>>> On 01/20/2012 07:55 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>>>>> gmrl or grml?
>>>>>
>>>>> I was following the audio tutorial, and that option did not work 
>>>>> for me. And in their FAQ, it did not sound like it was available. 
>>>>> Maybe I didn't read it right.
>>>>>
>>>>> I ended up running grml-debootstrap
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope it's not too much of a pain lol. Why would it be?
>>>>>
>>>>> Justin
>>>>> On 20-01-2012, at 19:31, Kelly Prescott wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I always use gmrl2hd and it works good for me...
>>>>>> I have a acer netbook ad another little one that I cannot think 
>>>>>> of the brand
>>>>>> of.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca 
>>>>>> [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:27 PM
>>>>>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They do have a gRML2hd, but I've never managed to get that 
>>>>>> working, so good
>>>>>> luck. I always just used debootstrap and installed Debian, but 
>>>>>> that's kind
>>>>>> of a pain.
>>>>>> On 1/20/2012 7:14 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>>>>>>> I actually downloaded this to take a look. I waited for the 
>>>>>>> jingle and
>>>>>>> typed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>>>> followed by
>>>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and after I pressed enter it did eventually come up speaking, 
>>>>>>> but it had
>>>>>> an error saying that it could not access a certain source, but I 
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> pressed return and it started working, review keys etc.
>>>>>>> Now I'm just looking for how to install it on the hard drive 
>>>>>>> partition. In
>>>>>> the FAQ of GRML, it looks as though it is not obvious.
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Justin Harford
>>>>>>> On 20-01-2012, at 16:14, Glenn wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>>>>>> I tried these, as they sound like the same as Orca, but nothing 
>>>>>>>> came out
>>>>>>>> when navigating with those keys.
>>>>>>>> It must be that I did all on the same line to call up espeak.
>>>>>>>> Glenn
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry at gotss.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for
>>>>>> Linux."<speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 2:07 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> obviously modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>>>> are 2 separate commands you run after hitting q to exit the grml
>>>>>>>> quickstart wizard.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Once speech is loaded you can use the speakup review commands 
>>>>>>>> to get
>>>>>>>> around the screen. to get keyboard echo you echo 1
>>>>>>>>> /sys/accessibility/speakup/key_echo or similar it is in there 
>>>>>>>>> somewhere.
>>>>>>>> to move by lines use capslock u i o, words are j k l and 
>>>>>>>> characters m ,
>>>>>>>> and .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> capslock and the numbers do volume, pitch and speed.
>>>>>>>> There is a help key can't remember what it is but there is 
>>>>>>>> documentation
>>>>>>>> on linux-speakup.org somewhere with all the key bindings.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards, Kerry.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 20/01/2012 12:41 PM, Glenn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Kerry,
>>>>>>>>> I downloaded the 32 bit version of GRML, and used the USB 
>>>>>>>>> installer and
>>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>>> it onto my 4GB thumbdrive.
>>>>>>>>> I ran:
>>>>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft espeakup
>>>>>>>>> And I got speech, but it does not echo my typing, nor can I 
>>>>>>>>> find a way
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> reviewing what is on the screen.
>>>>>>>>> I am familiar with Orca, in Ubuntu, but this has me stumped.
>>>>>>>>> This is on an Asus ePc which runs XP okay, I don't remember if I
>>>>>> upgraded
>>>>>>>>> the RAM to 1GB or 2GB, but either way, it should be enough.
>>>>>>>>> How do I control the speech better?
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry at gotss.net>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for
>>>>>> Linux."<speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:48 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Speakup is included however the accessability boot options are 
>>>>>>>>> gone.
>>>>>>>>> Boot the cd, wait for the beeps from the speaker, hit q to 
>>>>>>>>> exit the
>>>>>>>>> quick config screen then key in
>>>>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You should get speech.
>>>>>>>>> Options to load into ram still exist on the cheatsheet as far 
>>>>>>>>> as I can
>>>>>>>>> tell and you can still do
>>>>>>>>> <tab> ssh=password
>>>>>>>>> to get an ssh server running on the box.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards, kerry.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/01/2012 10:11 AM, Marcel Oats wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse 
>>>>>>>>>> me. I
>>>>>>>>>> just downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and 
>>>>>>>>>> noticed
>>>>>>>>>> that their "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no 
>>>>>>>>>> longer
>>>>>>>>>> available. They do not mention speakup support in their list 
>>>>>>>>>> of boot
>>>>>>>>>> options.
>>>>>>>>>> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into 
>>>>>>>>>> ram and have
>>>>>>>>>> it run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional 
>>>>>>>>>> programmes
>>>>>>>>>> that I have included are available, and we have software speech,
>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>>> of having to rely on a hardware synth.
>>>>>>>>>> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is 
>>>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for 
>>>>>>>>>> Linux and
>>>>>>>>>> create BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Marcel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>> Ty
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