Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

Sat Jan 21 01:36:20 EST 2012

You weren't wrong, it used to be there. I unfortunately never had much 
luck getting an install to complete, wen it was. Makes me wonder if the 
grml2usb option still works as it should?
Take care.

On 1/21/2012 12:27 AM, Robert cole wrote:
> Hello, Justin.
>
> You know...I just looked at the GRML FAQ, and it looks like there is a 
> way to install GRML to a hard drive, but they do not explain how to do 
> so there. And apparently it is not supported. So the only 
> straightforward approach is that of installing a straight Debian 
> system using grml-debootstrap.
>
> I am just guessing, then, that the edition of Debian which is 
> installed does not contain the espeakup package installed...I am not 
> sure. If I can do it tonight, I'll try and install it in a virtual 
> machine and see what happens.
>
> I could have sworn I saw a grml2hd script mentioned somewhere. Sorry 
> about that.
>
> On 01/20/2012 10:08 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>> Hi there
>>
>> Well I tried
>>
>> grml2hd
>>
>> and it said that the command was not recognized.
>>
>> It looks like the install process has changed over the last few years 
>> though. My process did not look anything like what Michael Whapples 
>> did in 2008.
>>
>> It looks like I have a system set up now, but I cannot seem to figure 
>> out how to turn on speakup. I tried what worked in the live cd:
>>
>> modprobe speakup_soft
>> espeakup
>>
>> But no beans.
>>
>> It does not recognize the command espeakup.
>>
>> Regards
>> Justin Harford
>> On 20-01-2012, at 21:20, Robert cole wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, Justin.
>>>
>>> Yes, the script is called grml2hd. I haven't tried it as I do not 
>>> have a hard drive to install to. I may try it under VirtualBox.
>>>
>>> On 01/20/2012 07:55 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>>>> gmrl or grml?
>>>>
>>>> I was following the audio tutorial, and that option did not work 
>>>> for me. And in their FAQ, it did not sound like it was available. 
>>>> Maybe I didn't read it right.
>>>>
>>>> I ended up running grml-debootstrap
>>>>
>>>> I hope it's not too much of a pain lol. Why would it be?
>>>>
>>>> Justin
>>>> On 20-01-2012, at 19:31, Kelly Prescott wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I always use gmrl2hd and it works good for me...
>>>>> I have a acer netbook ad another little one that I cannot think of 
>>>>> the brand
>>>>> of.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca 
>>>>> [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:27 PM
>>>>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>>
>>>>> They do have a gRML2hd, but I've never managed to get that 
>>>>> working, so good
>>>>> luck. I always just used debootstrap and installed Debian, but 
>>>>> that's kind
>>>>> of a pain.
>>>>> On 1/20/2012 7:14 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>>>>>> I actually downloaded this to take a look. I waited for the 
>>>>>> jingle and
>>>>>> typed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>>> followed by
>>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and after I pressed enter it did eventually come up speaking, but 
>>>>>> it had
>>>>> an error saying that it could not access a certain source, but I just
>>>>> pressed return and it started working, review keys etc.
>>>>>> Now I'm just looking for how to install it on the hard drive 
>>>>>> partition. In
>>>>> the FAQ of GRML, it looks as though it is not obvious.
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Justin Harford
>>>>>> On 20-01-2012, at 16:14, Glenn wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>>>>> I tried these, as they sound like the same as Orca, but nothing 
>>>>>>> came out
>>>>>>> when navigating with those keys.
>>>>>>> It must be that I did all on the same line to call up espeak.
>>>>>>> Glenn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry at gotss.net>
>>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for
>>>>> Linux."<speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 2:07 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> obviously modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>>> are 2 separate commands you run after hitting q to exit the grml
>>>>>>> quickstart wizard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once speech is loaded you can use the speakup review commands to 
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> around the screen. to get keyboard echo you echo 1
>>>>>>>> /sys/accessibility/speakup/key_echo or similar it is in there 
>>>>>>>> somewhere.
>>>>>>> to move by lines use capslock u i o, words are j k l and 
>>>>>>> characters m ,
>>>>>>> and .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> capslock and the numbers do volume, pitch and speed.
>>>>>>> There is a help key can't remember what it is but there is 
>>>>>>> documentation
>>>>>>> on linux-speakup.org somewhere with all the key bindings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards, Kerry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 20/01/2012 12:41 PM, Glenn wrote:
>>>>>>>> Kerry,
>>>>>>>> I downloaded the 32 bit version of GRML, and used the USB 
>>>>>>>> installer and
>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>> it onto my 4GB thumbdrive.
>>>>>>>> I ran:
>>>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft espeakup
>>>>>>>> And I got speech, but it does not echo my typing, nor can I 
>>>>>>>> find a way
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> reviewing what is on the screen.
>>>>>>>> I am familiar with Orca, in Ubuntu, but this has me stumped.
>>>>>>>> This is on an Asus ePc which runs XP okay, I don't remember if I
>>>>> upgraded
>>>>>>>> the RAM to 1GB or 2GB, but either way, it should be enough.
>>>>>>>> How do I control the speech better?
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry at gotss.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for
>>>>> Linux."<speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:48 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Speakup is included however the accessability boot options are 
>>>>>>>> gone.
>>>>>>>> Boot the cd, wait for the beeps from the speaker, hit q to exit 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> quick config screen then key in
>>>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You should get speech.
>>>>>>>> Options to load into ram still exist on the cheatsheet as far 
>>>>>>>> as I can
>>>>>>>> tell and you can still do
>>>>>>>> <tab> ssh=password
>>>>>>>> to get an ssh server running on the box.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards, kerry.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/01/2012 10:11 AM, Marcel Oats wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse 
>>>>>>>>> me. I
>>>>>>>>> just downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and 
>>>>>>>>> noticed
>>>>>>>>> that their "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no 
>>>>>>>>> longer
>>>>>>>>> available. They do not mention speakup support in their list 
>>>>>>>>> of boot
>>>>>>>>> options.
>>>>>>>>> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into ram 
>>>>>>>>> and have
>>>>>>>>> it run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional 
>>>>>>>>> programmes
>>>>>>>>> that I have included are available, and we have software speech,
>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>> of having to rely on a hardware synth.
>>>>>>>>> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is 
>>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for Linux 
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> create BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Marcel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>> Take care,
>>>>> Ty
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