Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?

Robert cole rkcole72984 at gmail.com
Sat Jan 21 01:27:09 EST 2012 

Hello, Justin.

You know...I just looked at the GRML FAQ, and it looks like there is a 
way to install GRML to a hard drive, but they do not explain how to do 
so there. And apparently it is not supported. So the only 
straightforward approach is that of installing a straight Debian system 
using grml-debootstrap.

I am just guessing, then, that the edition of Debian which is installed 
does not contain the espeakup package installed...I am not sure. If I 
can do it tonight, I'll try and install it in a virtual machine and see 
what happens.

I could have sworn I saw a grml2hd script mentioned somewhere. Sorry 
about that.

On 01/20/2012 10:08 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
> Hi there
>
> Well I tried
>
> grml2hd
>
> and it said that the command was not recognized.
>
> It looks like the install process has changed over the last few years though. My process did not look anything like what Michael Whapples did in 2008.
>
> It looks like I have a system set up now, but I cannot seem to figure out how to turn on speakup. I tried what worked in the live cd:
>
> modprobe speakup_soft
> espeakup
>
> But no beans.
>
> It does not recognize the command espeakup.
>
> Regards
> Justin Harford
> On 20-01-2012, at 21:20, Robert cole wrote:
>
>> Hello, Justin.
>>
>> Yes, the script is called grml2hd. I haven't tried it as I do not have a hard drive to install to. I may try it under VirtualBox.
>>
>> On 01/20/2012 07:55 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>>> gmrl or grml?
>>>
>>> I was following the audio tutorial, and that option did not work for me. And in their FAQ, it did not sound like it was available. Maybe I didn't read it right.
>>>
>>> I ended up running grml-debootstrap
>>>
>>> I hope it's not too much of a pain lol. Why would it be?
>>>
>>> Justin
>>> On 20-01-2012, at 19:31, Kelly Prescott wrote:
>>>
>>>> I always use gmrl2hd and it works good for me...
>>>> I have a acer netbook ad another little one that I cannot think of the brand
>>>> of.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca]
>>>> On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:27 PM
>>>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>
>>>> They do have a gRML2hd, but I've never managed to get that working, so good
>>>> luck. I always just used debootstrap and installed Debian, but that's kind
>>>> of a pain.
>>>> On 1/20/2012 7:14 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
>>>>> I actually downloaded this to take a look. I waited for the jingle and
>>>>> typed
>>>>>
>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>> followed by
>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>
>>>>> and after I pressed enter it did eventually come up speaking, but it had
>>>> an error saying that it could not access a certain source, but I just
>>>> pressed return and it started working, review keys etc.
>>>>> Now I'm just looking for how to install it on the hard drive partition. In
>>>> the FAQ of GRML, it looks as though it is not obvious.
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Justin Harford
>>>>> On 20-01-2012, at 16:14, Glenn wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>>>> I tried these, as they sound like the same as Orca, but nothing came out
>>>>>> when navigating with those keys.
>>>>>> It must be that I did all on the same line to call up espeak.
>>>>>> Glenn
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry at gotss.net>
>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for
>>>> Linux."<speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 2:07 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> obviously modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>> are 2 separate commands you run after hitting q to exit the grml
>>>>>> quickstart wizard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once speech is loaded you can use the speakup review commands to get
>>>>>> around the screen. to get keyboard echo you echo 1
>>>>>>> /sys/accessibility/speakup/key_echo or similar it is in there somewhere.
>>>>>> to move by lines use capslock u i o, words are j k l and characters m ,
>>>>>> and .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> capslock and the numbers do volume, pitch and speed.
>>>>>> There is a help key can't remember what it is but there is documentation
>>>>>> on linux-speakup.org somewhere with all the key bindings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards, Kerry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20/01/2012 12:41 PM, Glenn wrote:
>>>>>>> Kerry,
>>>>>>> I downloaded the 32 bit version of GRML, and used the USB installer and
>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>> it onto my 4GB thumbdrive.
>>>>>>> I ran:
>>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft espeakup
>>>>>>> And I got speech, but it does not echo my typing, nor can I find a way
>>>> of
>>>>>>> reviewing what is on the screen.
>>>>>>> I am familiar with Orca, in Ubuntu, but this has me stumped.
>>>>>>> This is on an Asus ePc which runs XP okay, I don't remember if I
>>>> upgraded
>>>>>>> the RAM to 1GB or 2GB, but either way, it should be enough.
>>>>>>> How do I control the speech better?
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath"<kerry at gotss.net>
>>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for
>>>> Linux."<speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:48 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Is speakup no longer included in grml releases?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Speakup is included however the accessability boot options are gone.
>>>>>>> Boot the cd, wait for the beeps from the speaker, hit q to exit the
>>>>>>> quick config screen then key in
>>>>>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>>>>>> espeakup
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You should get speech.
>>>>>>> Options to load into ram still exist on the cheatsheet as far as I can
>>>>>>> tell and you can still do
>>>>>>> <tab>     ssh=password
>>>>>>> to get an ssh server running on the box.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards, kerry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/01/2012 10:11 AM, Marcel Oats wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi, I am fairly sure this has been answered before, so excuse me.  I
>>>>>>>> just downloaded grml2011.12 (both 64 and 32bit versions) and noticed
>>>>>>>> that their "large" distribution (around 700mb of iso) is no longer
>>>>>>>> available. They do not mention speakup support in their list of boot
>>>>>>>> options.
>>>>>>>> I am wanting to use this as you can load the squashfs into ram and have
>>>>>>>> it run from there; I usually remaster it so as additional programmes
>>>>>>>> that I have included are available, and we have software speech,
>>>> instead
>>>>>>>> of having to rely on a hardware synth.
>>>>>>>> I might have to look for another distro, and hope that it is possible
>>>> to
>>>>>>>> load the squashfs filesystem into ram as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Useful to do such things as running Terabyte's Image for Linux and
>>>>>>>> create BD backups is an example of the kinds of uses I have.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Marcel
>>>>>>>>
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