Ipods and Itunes - What are they all about?

Tue Oct 27 23:00:48 EDT 2009

Actually, it does click.
There is a setting in the menus for turning on clicks, and how loud you want 
them.
HTH.
Glenn
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Subject: Re: Ipods and Itunes - What are they all about?

They can be managed with linux...there are a couple of Gui tools for
doing that, and Gnupod for doing it from the console.  Gnupod is what I
use for the 4th gen Ipod I got off ebay and it works ok, though I'd
rather something a little easier to manage content with, though not as
big and bloated as Itunes.  As for rockbox, I installed it for a little
while but it seemed a little unresponsive and hard to use it's UI with
the click wheel on the ipod.  Another slight irritation I found with it
is that the wheel on an ipod doesn't click when used with rockbox, which
would be nice to have on top of the speach output.

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:30:02PM +0000, Georgina Joyce wrote:
> Hi
>
> What I don't understand is can it be managed purely by linux?  It seems
> that the audio only players i.e. shuffle, don't have any access support.
> But those with video support can be accessible.
> On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 15:21 -0400, David Poehlman wrote:
> > actually, mp3s and wavs are supported by itunes transfer to ipod and
> > maybe another file format or two.  also, in order to get voice onto
> > the ipods other than the ipod touch, you have to get it put on through
> > itunes and even on the touch to enable it, you need to do it with
> > itunes but this just requires checking a box because everything is
> > there.
> >
> > On Oct 26, 2009, at 2:46 PM, Jason Miller wrote:
> >
> > Hello
> >
> > Here is what is with iPods and iTunes. iTunes is the music player that
> > comes standard with the apple systems, and can be downloaded onto
> > Windows.
> >
> > An iPod is like you said, the player. As far as differences with iPods
> > and other players, there are quite a few. Some of the  iPods now come
> > accessible out of the box with Macintosh's screen reader built in
> > (it's called Voice Over). That will read you the song files,
> > playlists, and do a bunch more apparently. There is a solve all for
> > older iPods too, up to generation 5.5. It's called rockbox, and
> > although it's something like the main speakup voice, or the orca for
> > ubuntu voice, it does the same thing, and it makes the older iPods
> > accessible. You can go to www.rockbox.org to check out the system,
> > it's an entire firmware replacement for the iPods, and not just a
> > screen reader.
> >
> > As for other differences, you can get iPods up to like 180 GB now of
> > storage, which you can't do with many (or most of) the other players.
> > I don't know wat all the iPod supports, but that is where you need
> > iTunes. You make you playlist, or sync your iPod on iTunes, and it
> > transfers all of your music, no matter which *supported* extension, to
> > the iPod in a certain (M4A I think) format.
> > I hope that helps explain the differences a little.
> > On 10/26/09, Georgina Joyce <r2gl at o2.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Hi All
> > >
> > >
> > > Could someone explain in simple terms what Itunes and Ipods are all
> > > about?  How different is it from using a standard mp3 player and
> > > putting
> > > files into different directories?  Yes you can buy electronic copies
> > > of
> > > music from itunes but will they only play on an Ipod?  Are there Ipods
> > > that are accessible now?  Do these linux Ipod tools make storing and
> > > choosing music easy?  I'm guessing Itunes and Ipods  don't handle in
> > > any
> > > shape or form with vorbis ogg files?
> > >
> > > In short, how accessible is an Ipod and Itunes from the linux platform
> > > and what are the advantages over a standard mp3 player?
> > >
> > > Many thanks.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Gena
> > >
> > >
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> > >    * The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your
> > > needs (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for
> > > this.
> > >    * The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor
> > > (freedom 2).
> > >    * The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements
> > > to the public, so that the whole community benefits (freedom 3).
> > > Access
> > > to the source code is a precondition for this.
> > >
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> Gena
>
>
> four kinds of freedom, for the users of the software:
>
>     * The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0).
>     * The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your
> needs (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
>     * The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor
> (freedom 2).
>     * The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements
> to the public, so that the whole community benefits (freedom 3). Access
> to the source code is a precondition for this.
>
> Richard Matthew Stallman
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