apple's screen reader (was New Linux PDA For Blind People)

[Sina Bahram]

How do you mean? I've never had any trouble with any version of windows
media player with jaws, window eyes, or supernova for that matter.

Take care,
Sina 

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I'm just curious but why does the two major screen readers for windows, not
support windows media player? there is a very rich set of features in the
player and sadly jaws support a third party player like winamp more then ist
does the one built in for windows. do you not find that odd?
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On Apr 2, 2006, at 10:23 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:

> Actually, carbon apps do work with vo, just not nearly as well as 
> cocoa apps do.  Cocoa has a lot more built-in compatibility with vo 
> than carbon apps do, but even carbon apps have *soome* compatibility 
> with vo, and although it's certainly not the simplest task to do on 
> the mac, ITunes *can* be made to work.  I don't use it nearly as much 
> as others do, but when I do use it, I have no problem making it do 
> what I want.  But then again, I use quicktime, audio hijack, real 
> player, and a couple other apps to pretty much replace the 
> functionality of ITunes, so for me it's not a big deal that it doesn't 
> work very well with voiceover.  However, there's folks on the list 
> that use scripts and other things to make ITunes work considerably 
> than it does out of the box.  So, don't dismiss out of hand things 
> that don't work out of the box, because generally there's a work 
> around.  Not always, but generally.  And of course you won't know that 
> unless you get involved.
> On Apr 2, 2006, at 5:30 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
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>> I didn't get a lot of time to really get down and use Voice Over 
>> heavily but I did give Itunes a try.  Forget it! Itunes was quieter 
>> than a church mouse! I understand applications have to be built in 
>> Coco framework in order for Voice Over to work.  Itunes and the ports 
>> of Microsoft Office are in Carbon; I was told that Carbon apps just 
>> flat don't work in Voice Over.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 01:39:04PM -0500, Travis Siegel wrote:
>>> What are you talking about?
>>> I use the mac every day. Email, file manipulation, cd/dvd playing, 
>>> cd/ dvd creating, online chatting, web browsing, word processing, 
>>> and to some degree, even programming on the mac are completely 100% 
>>> accessible.  There's folks using it for sound editing, and podcast 
>>> creation as well.  If there's stuff you can't do on the mac, there's 
>>> probably a third-party solution out there somewhere to do it.
>>> Admittedly, some of the programs aren't 100% accessible, but there's 
>>> always workarounds.  The shell prompt (they call it terminal) works, 
>>> though not automatically, but if that's the worst I have to worry 
>>> about with a machine, then I'd say it's a pretty good machine.
>>> Also, the apple provided dvd player won't let you get to the video 
>>> described sound tracks on your dvd by yourself, but the softcon DVD 
>>> player does (http://softcon.com/mac). and there's other developers 
>>> working on things like producing audio mp3 files from text using the 
>>> apple voices, and various other little things to make macs easier/ 
>>> better to use.  I'd suggest going into your local apple store, 
>>> sitting down with a mac, and trying it before insisting it's not 
>>> usable.  I think you might be surprised at how much you can do with 
>>> it.
>>
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