apple's screen reader (was New Linux PDA For Blind People)

Sun Apr 2 17:37:14 EDT 2006

I'm just curious but why does the two major screen readers for  
windows, not support windows media player? there is a very rich set  
of features in the player and sadly jaws support a third party player  
like winamp more then ist does the one built in for windows. do you  
not find that odd?
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On Apr 2, 2006, at 10:23 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:

> Actually, carbon apps do work with vo, just not nearly as well as
> cocoa apps do.  Cocoa has a lot more built-in compatibility with vo
> than carbon apps do, but even carbon apps have *soome* compatibility
> with vo, and although it's certainly not the simplest task to do on
> the mac, ITunes *can* be made to work.  I don't use it nearly as much
> as others do, but when I do use it, I have no problem making it do
> what I want.  But then again, I use quicktime, audio hijack, real
> player, and a couple other apps to pretty much replace the
> functionality of ITunes, so for me it's not a big deal that it
> doesn't work very well with voiceover.  However, there's folks on the
> list that use scripts and other things to make ITunes work
> considerably than it does out of the box.  So, don't dismiss out of
> hand things that don't work out of the box, because generally there's
> a work around.  Not always, but generally.  And of course you won't
> know that unless you get involved.
> On Apr 2, 2006, at 5:30 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>
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>> I didn't get a lot of time to really get down and use Voice Over
>> heavily
>> but I did give Itunes a try.  Forget it! Itunes was quieter than a
>> church mouse! I understand applications have to be built in Coco
>> framework in order for Voice Over to work.  Itunes and the ports of
>> Microsoft Office are in Carbon; I was told that Carbon apps just flat
>> don't work in Voice Over.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 01:39:04PM -0500, Travis Siegel wrote:
>>> What are you talking about?
>>> I use the mac every day. Email, file manipulation, cd/dvd playing,
>>> cd/
>>> dvd creating, online chatting, web browsing, word processing, and to
>>> some degree, even programming on the mac are completely 100%
>>> accessible.  There's folks using it for sound editing, and podcast
>>> creation as well.  If there's stuff you can't do on the mac, there's
>>> probably a third-party solution out there somewhere to do it.
>>> Admittedly, some of the programs aren't 100% accessible, but there's
>>> always workarounds.  The shell prompt (they call it terminal) works,
>>> though not automatically, but if that's the worst I have to worry
>>> about with a machine, then I'd say it's a pretty good machine.
>>> Also, the apple provided dvd player won't let you get to the video
>>> described sound tracks on your dvd by yourself, but the softcon DVD
>>> player does (http://softcon.com/mac). and there's other developers
>>> working on things like producing audio mp3 files from text using the
>>> apple voices, and various other little things to make macs easier/
>>> better to use.  I'd suggest going into your local apple store,
>>> sitting down with a mac, and trying it before insisting it's not
>>> usable.  I think you might be surprised at how much you can do
>>> with it.
>>
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