apple's screen reader (was New Linux PDA For Blind People)

[W. Nick Dotson]

I don't have problems with it using JFW, HAL or Windows Vision.

Nick

On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 18:31:30 -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:

 How do you mean? I've never had any trouble with any version of windows
 media player with jaws, window eyes, or supernova for that matter.

 Take care,
 Sina 

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 I'm just curious but why does the two major screen readers for windows, not
 support windows media player? there is a very rich set of features in the
 player and sadly jaws support a third party player like winamp more then ist
 does the one built in for windows. do you not find that odd?
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 On Apr 2, 2006, at 10:23 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:

 > Actually, carbon apps do work with vo, just not nearly as well as 
 > cocoa apps do.  Cocoa has a lot more built-in compatibility with vo 
 > than carbon apps do, but even carbon apps have *soome* compatibility 
 > with vo, and although it's certainly not the simplest task to do on 
 > the mac, ITunes *can* be made to work.  I don't use it nearly as much 
 > as others do, but when I do use it, I have no problem making it do 
 > what I want.  But then again, I use quicktime, audio hijack, real 
 > player, and a couple other apps to pretty much replace the 
 > functionality of ITunes, so for me it's not a big deal that it doesn't 
 > work very well with voiceover.  However, there's folks on the list 
 > that use scripts and other things to make ITunes work considerably 
 > than it does out of the box.  So, don't dismiss out of hand things 
 > that don't work out of the box, because generally there's a work 
 > around.  Not always, but generally.  And of course you won't know that 
 > unless you get involved.
 > On Apr 2, 2006, at 5:30 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
 >
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 >> I didn't get a lot of time to really get down and use Voice Over 
 >> heavily but I did give Itunes a try.  Forget it! Itunes was quieter 
 >> than a church mouse! I understand applications have to be built in 
 >> Coco framework in order for Voice Over to work.  Itunes and the ports 
 >> of Microsoft Office are in Carbon; I was told that Carbon apps just 
 >> flat don't work in Voice Over.
 >>
 >> On Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 01:39:04PM -0500, Travis Siegel wrote:
 >>> What are you talking about?
 >>> I use the mac every day. Email, file manipulation, cd/dvd playing, 
 >>> cd/ dvd creating, online chatting, web browsing, word processing, 
 >>> and to some degree, even programming on the mac are completely 100% 
 >>> accessible.  There's folks using it for sound editing, and podcast 
 >>> creation as well.  If there's stuff you can't do on the mac, there's 
 >>> probably a third-party solution out there somewhere to do it.
 >>> Admittedly, some of the programs aren't 100% accessible, but there's 
 >>> always workarounds.  The shell prompt (they call it terminal) works, 
 >>> though not automatically, but if that's the worst I have to worry 
 >>> about with a machine, then I'd say it's a pretty good machine.
 >>> Also, the apple provided dvd player won't let you get to the video 
 >>> described sound tracks on your dvd by yourself, but the softcon DVD 
 >>> player does (http://softcon.com/mac). and there's other developers 
 >>> working on things like producing audio mp3 files from text using the 
 >>> apple voices, and various other little things to make macs easier/ 
 >>> better to use.  I'd suggest going into your local apple store, 
 >>> sitting down with a mac, and trying it before insisting it's not 
 >>> usable.  I think you might be surprised at how much you can do with 
 >>> it.
 >>
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