it's more likely the irc network has disabled port 6667 we do it ourselves on awesomechat from time to time mainly due to clone attacks. -- Shaun Oliver "I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person." email: shaun.oliver at optusnet.com.au WEB: http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/ IRC: irc.awesomechat.net:6666 IRCNICK: blindman