ideas for Mozilla integration

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

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My initial response to this thread was to cheer Igor for a
principled stand. Such stands are rare these days and usually
give way quickly to the need to "feed and clothe" as Doug has
said. And I still applaud Igor's raising the issue.

But the most penetrating thing I have heard said so far is
Kenny's comments. The Gnome/Gnopernicus folks should have done
under GPL what Matt and colleagues have done for profit, and
still could if they wanted to.

I am also amazed at the deeply conservative thread on here. I
thought I had left all that behind, but evidently not. I gather
that most of us use free software because it is like free beer,
not free speech. Too bad. The world only changes for the better
because of folks like Richard Stallman, Igor, and Kirk, to
mention just a few.

That's my glass of whine for the day.

Chuck

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, Kenny Hitt wrote:

>
> Hi.  From what I understand, Freedombox is using interfaces that are
> already a part of Mozilla.  They haven't modified Mozilla, just written
> an app to use the accessibility interfaces in the browzer.  You can
> write the same program if you want to learn the interfaces and take the
> time.
> Deciding to complain because someone else wrote a program you want (and
> can  write for yourself) just makes you look bad and accomplishes
> nothing.
>
> The best thing to come from Freedombox is to show that the problem with
> Mozilla access isn't because of lack of hooks in Mozilla.  If
> Gnopernicus doesn't give the same access to Mozilla as Freedombox then
> it is a Gnome/Gnopernicus problem instead of the "problem with Mozilla"
> the Gnome developers claim.
>
> I don't like using a commercial product to access Mozilla, but I've been
> promised access from the Gnome accessibility project for almost 2 years.
> Until I decide to write my own program, Freedombox will get my business
> just because they have results.  Maybe there will be access from Gnome
> some day, but I'm not holding my breath.
> If you want to start demanding things from a group I think the Gnome
> Accessibility Project should be contacted first.  At the least,
> demanding Gnome Accessibility stop over marketing their product would be
> a good thing.
>
>           Kenny



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