ideas for Mozilla integration

[Charles Crawford]

Free beer or free speech eh?  I like that anology.

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, 
Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:

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> My initial response to this thread was to cheer Igor for a
> principled stand. Such stands are rare these days and usually
> give way quickly to the need to "feed and clothe" as Doug has
> said. And I still applaud Igor's raising the issue.
> 
> But the most penetrating thing I have heard said so far is
> Kenny's comments. The Gnome/Gnopernicus folks should have done
> under GPL what Matt and colleagues have done for profit, and
> still could if they wanted to.
> 
> I am also amazed at the deeply conservative thread on here. I
> thought I had left all that behind, but evidently not. I gather
> that most of us use free software because it is like free beer,
> not free speech. Too bad. The world only changes for the better
> because of folks like Richard Stallman, Igor, and Kirk, to
> mention just a few.
> 
> That's my glass of whine for the day.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> 
> >
> > Hi.  From what I understand, Freedombox is using interfaces that are
> > already a part of Mozilla.  They haven't modified Mozilla, just written
> > an app to use the accessibility interfaces in the browzer.  You can
> > write the same program if you want to learn the interfaces and take the
> > time.
> > Deciding to complain because someone else wrote a program you want (and
> > can  write for yourself) just makes you look bad and accomplishes
> > nothing.
> >
> > The best thing to come from Freedombox is to show that the problem with
> > Mozilla access isn't because of lack of hooks in Mozilla.  If
> > Gnopernicus doesn't give the same access to Mozilla as Freedombox then
> > it is a Gnome/Gnopernicus problem instead of the "problem with Mozilla"
> > the Gnome developers claim.
> >
> > I don't like using a commercial product to access Mozilla, but I've been
> > promised access from the Gnome accessibility project for almost 2 years.
> > Until I decide to write my own program, Freedombox will get my business
> > just because they have results.  Maybe there will be access from Gnome
> > some day, but I'm not holding my breath.
> > If you want to start demanding things from a group I think the Gnome
> > Accessibility Project should be contacted first.  At the least,
> > demanding Gnome Accessibility stop over marketing their product would be
> > a good thing.
> >
> >           Kenny
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