Visualy impaired

Alex Snow alex_snow at h14me.homelinux.net
Wed Jul 16 17:19:51 EDT 2003


Actually I'd even go as far as to say gigabytes of docs. There's 
definitly a lot of helpful sturff out there.
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 
04:45:48PM -0400, Ann Parsons wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> >>>>> "Nigel" == Nigel  <stoppard at ntlworld.com> writes:
> 
>     Nigel> Hi all, Not being able to look at a computer screen
>     Nigel> means that it is very difficult to get information on
>     Nigel> linux.
> 
> Oh, really?  Interesting, an OS that has megabytes of good
> documentation in either txt or html format is hard to access if you
> can't read the screen?  An operating system that has documentation for
> each utility and each program and howtos for installation that, if you
> know what you're reading, can help you install the complete
> distribution is hard to access without looking at the screen?  An
> operating system whose makers believe that one should have access to
> complete documentation is difficult to access because you can't read
> the screen?  Hmmmmmm, interesting. 
> 
>     Nigel> I have found a 8.1 version of slackware and installing
>     Nigel> speakup sounds pretty tricky.  Particularly as i will
>     Nigel> not be able to look at the screen.
> 
> Perhaps Slackware is not the distribution you want.  Might I suggest
> Debian?  I'm not positive on this point, but I think the speakup
> modules and so on exist for Slackware.  What makes you think it would
> be so difficult?  If you know how to answer the questions, access is
> no problem.
> 
>     Nigel> I was wondering if there are other visualy impaired
>     Nigel> users of speakup on this list or if it is for
>     Nigel> developers.  I have been using jaws to look at linux
>     Nigel> stuff most of the afternoon but the more i read the more
>     Nigel> it feels like its harder than blind folded brain
>     Nigel> surgery.  I am starting to think i would be better off
>     Nigel> sticking with windows for the moment.
> 
> Oh, my stars and garters!  O my eyes and teeth!  Let me see if I have
> your logic straight here, Nigel.  User equals blind.  Programmer
> equals sighted.  All users are blind.  All programmers are sighted.
> No users are programmers, therefore no users are sighted.  And
> finally, all programmers are not users, therefore programmer equals
> sighted?  
> 
> this is very interesting logic.  Just exactly how did you arrive at
> this logic?  Where did you get the parts of this silogism?
> Unfortunately, your information is faulty, therefore your logic is
> faulty and therefore your silogism doesn't compute.    Here is the
> correct info.
> 
> Most all members of this discussion group are blind.  All members of
> this discussion list use Speakup.  Many members of this discussion
> list are programmers who are programming their own screen reader for
> Linux, i.e. speakup.  Therefore, all programmers of Speakup use their
> own program.  All users are blind.  In finally, there are no sighted
> programmers who are currently working on the development of Speakup.
> Therefore, access to an eyes-free installation is assured!  
> 
>     Nigel> I have been looking at a linux newbies questions web
>     Nigel> site for slackware but its not very accessable using
>     Nigel> jaws.
> 
> Well, you might want to look at:'
> 
> http://www.linux-speakup.org
> 
> You might conceivably find some information there which might be
> useful.
> 
> Ann P.
> 
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