Grub was Re: Installing Speakup separate from Linux.

[Janina Sajka]

Usable and accessible aren't the same thing, though. I think you wrote 
that you give yourself a lot of time to put the grub command in--arrowing 
or whatever you do. If indeed there's no opportunity to insert bell chars, 
or to echo a boot prompt of some kind to a serial device, I would 
certainly adjudicate grub as less accessible. Feedback about what's 
happening, and knowing where you are and what the results of your key 
strokes will be are critical componants of accessibility.

Not that lilo is all that accessible, either. But, there seems to be more 
information there to support eyes-free interfaces.
 On Mon, 4 Mar 
2002, Thomas Ward wrote:

> Hmmm... Well, both are usable. Lilo verses Grub is more a personal issue
> rather than an accessible one.
> Neither boot loader is that dificult when instructed on how to use them, and
> if Linux resides as the only os on the system it is likely you may only have
> one partition to boot.
> However, perhaps starting out with lilo won't be a bad choice seeing the
> number of familiar users. Grub is new, and not a lot of blind Linux users
> have switched to it.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Janina Sajka <janina at afb.net>
> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 1:52 PM
> Subject: Re: Grub was Re: Installing Speakup separate from Linux.
> 
> 
> > Let me raise a somewhat more thorny issue here. This topic came up for us
> > this morning because a newbie was asking for advice.
> >
> > If, as I think we've just established, grub is less accessible than lilo,
> > might I suggest that it is inappropriate to recommend the less accessible
> > option to a newbie. And, if it is appropriate to recommend it, isn't it an
> > ethical responsibility to advise about the accessibility concerns and the
> > existence of a more accessible option? I believe this is the
> > responsibility of those of us with a bit more knowledge and experience.
> >
> >
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> > Janina Sajka, Director
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> >
> > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
> >
> > Chair, Accessibility SIG
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				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina at afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org