moving or copying

Edward L. Barnes ebarnes at
Tue Aug 20 16:50:23 EDT 2002

Hi there, as a follow-up to Janina's note in reply to Angus I figured 
that I should mention to Angus that if dons2unix and or unix2dos aren't 
present you'll need to install them using Red Hat's package manager, 
rpm, of course, if you had an experienced linux user help you who was 
ware of the fact that you were dual booting with windows and who 
recommended the custom installation or a full install you got both 
packages, however; if you went with something like server and picked all 
package groups or you went with something like laptop or workstation 
which incidentally thw howto re speakup modified Red hat doesn't 
recommend you probably don't have either of these packages.
To install these packages you could do something like these commands.
mount your cd-rom with a command like:
mount /mnt/cdrom
cd /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS 
Then, install the packages with something like:
rpm -iv dos2unix* 
rpm -iv unix2dos* 
RPM is very useful so as someone who is new having there very own rh 
system to use and learn from you might find it helpful in the long-term 
to familiarize yourself with rpm.
And, if you've not already figured it out, some commands like rpm and 
many of its options, mount, etc, are indispensible so familiarizing 
yourself with these early will most certainly prove benificial to you. 
I hope this note was helpful and that you enjoy learning Red Hat and 
linux generally, good luck, and for now I'm out of here, I need coffee ! 

Ed Barnes
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Janina Sajka wrote:

> Hi, Angus:
> First, congradulations on getting Red Hat with Speakup working on your 
> computer.
> Some quick tips:
> You can mount a vfat partition in Linux. That means that you can make your 
> Windows files readable and writable in a directory under linux, though you 
> cannot execute applications directly.
> To do so, create a mount point, meaning a directory -- perhaps something 
> like "winfiles" like this:
> mkdir winfiles
> Now, you can mount a partition to that directory. First you need to know 
> what partition holds the files you want. Do you know? Is it FAT32? I'll 
> guess that it's the first partition and that you use fat32. Your command 
> becomes:
> mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 winfiles
> Of course, adjust to conform to the facts on your system.
> Learn more by reading about mount:
> man mount
> Remember, also, that dos2unix is a command for converting dos format text 
> files to unix format:
> dos2unix []
> And there's a unix2dos to go the other way, too.
> Now, there's great documentation to get you going. The tail end of our 
> HOWTO has some suggestions. Read the section called "Now What?." 
> Also, look at the Red Hat Getting Started Guide at:
> Remember, the Getting Started Guide will walk you through many tasks. Skip 
> the parts about GNOME and KDE, because you can't use them yet. Go to the 
> parts about shell and command access.
> Remember, you can have multiple consoles open. This is extremely handy. 
> It's a bit like Alt-TAB in Windows, but better. Use Alt plus any of the 
> first six function keys, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, and F6, and login. You can go 
> back and forth between these consoles all day long, meaning you can keep 
> the guide op[en in one, while you try things out in another.
> On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, ADFM wrote:
> > Janina
> > 
> > Sorry, I have RedHat speaking with Speakup. I am trying to remember how to move documents from my Windows drive to RedHat. I am trying to remember some UNIX commands like viewing files and directories. I know this is different from the DOS dir command. What I have come up with so far is:
> > 
> > cp /dev/hda1\Linux\
> > 
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