New user encountering problems

Brent Harding bharding at ufw2.com
Sat Sep 23 15:16:11 EDT 2000


I am not real fond of that. Can speakup still be patched in to redhat's
kernel? What devices are configured in to it's default config file, or
whatever it does to do it for you when you install a kernel rpm?
At 01:31 PM 9/23/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi
>	Well, I don't know what tools debian provides, but I know redhat
>does have a tool to configure networking. Be warned, though, any use of
>rh's tools, then try to build your own kernel, and you're likely screwed
>up. They seem to take a stand like "Oh, you don't need to build a kernel,
>do it our way".
>	You're certainly right about debian having files in nonstandard
>places. Whoever heard  of dosemu's configuration files going in
>/usr/lib/dosemu/etc, for example.
>
>On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Brent Harding wrote:
>
>> I've liked debian for awhile, but tons of stuff won't compile, because the
>> locations of files are a little screwy. Why put stuff in non standard
>> places I don't know. How does one configure a redhat kernel when compiling
>> anyways? I'm thinking about using it some time, suppose I need the 3c59x
>> driver support for networking, can I config it like a normal kernel or does
>> redhat have tools to make this easier?
>> At 11:24 PM 9/22/00 -0400, you wrote:
>> >Hi
>> >	It is possible to build a speakup kernel from the Red Hat source
>> >RPM. Just skip the patches that can't find their files, they don't apply
>> >to the i386.
>> >	However, the kernel will build, but unless you use a rh supplied
>> >config, your modules will have unresolved symbols all over the place. I
>> >don't think speakup agrees with some of the patches RH applied to their
>> >kernel rpm, for it is not a clean source. They've applied all sorts of
>> >stuff that are beta, or even alpha. Not wise, I believe they do it to try
>> >to get their distro to support more hardware.
>> >	Personally, I think slackware is the best, closely followed by
>> >debian.
>> >
>> >On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Kirk Wood wrote:
>> >
>> >> I believe this is a kernel problem. Once the kernel starts expanding
(you
>> >> get the loading and the dots, then the kernel quickly takes over. My
guess
>> >> is that you used the kernell source provided by RedHat. If you did, then
>> >> you should download the kernel (possibly from kernel.org) and apply the
>> >> patch compile, etc.) RedHat doesn't provide the complete kernel and as a
>> >> result the built images don't work correct. Sorry I can't give you more
>> >> complete details. Just that it is common to discover you can't build a
>> >> working kernel with speakup from the RedHat source package.
>> >> 
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