which prebuilt linux boxes seem to work best?

Kerry Hoath kerry at gotss.eu.org
Wed Oct 25 21:56:09 EDT 2000


Brent an hp9000 is *not* a pc and does not yet run Linux.
It runms hp/ux and it is a mini computer.
They set you back at least 10k so forget that one
On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 08:03:08PM -0500, Brent Harding wrote:
> In what way would one install linux on a box like this, serial console is
> probably quite usefull, (if I could use it with a parallel to serial
> converter with a dectalk express connected to my laptop's real serial
> port). Would one just put in the hp supplied CD and do the install by
> serial or dialin?
> At 06:07 PM 10/25/00 +1100, you wrote:
> >My hp9000 model 816 has _no_ monitor it has a serial port. It also has the
> >ability for a remote dialin port where you can connect a modem. No
> keyboard or
> >screen there; I have an hp terminal that comes with it to control it or a pc.
> >Now to find a copy of hp/ux for a model 816 :-) Once linux boots we'll try
> >speakup on the hpux :-)
> >On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 09:00:47PM -0500, Brent Harding wrote:
> >> Oh, why then, do they claim to use A/b switches to decide which machine
> >> they're controlling? I'm not fond of that idea either, but if I have to
> >> deal with it, because their firewall secures access to that level, which
> >> I'm not sure it would, it'd be inefficient to do things that way. If
> >> there's no capability of connecting screens or keyboards, what would be
> >> used to set it up initially, or reinstall if something goes wrong? Do these
> >> machines usually have a program that you run across the network that works
> >> no matter what?
> >> I suppose if I can do most stuff remotely, I could just set up one speakup
> >> enabled linux box to control all others with.
> >> At 07:53 AM 10/23/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >> >I think Geoff has pointed out the way you will access any machines you
> >> >need to. It is quite rare for console access to a server that is cranking
> >> >away. In fact my business relies on two AIX (Unix varient) machines. There
> >> >are only two operations done at console. 
> >> >
> >> >The first is tape backup. But really it is more a matter of checking that
> >> >files really did backup and putting in the next day's tapes. The other is
> >> >that if building power goes out, someone goes to the server room to ensure
> >> >all shuts down orderly. Otherwise things are done remotely. In fact, there
> >> >are some who consider doing anything locally on a server that could be
> >> >done safely remotely to be a security transgression. Also, there are many
> >> >servers out there with no keyboard or monitor connected. (And a few with
> >> >no video to connect a monitor.) The only operation done at the console is
> >> >hitting the power switch.
> >> >
> >> >If one is trying to prepare for a job they hope for, I would recomend
> >> >learning all one can about administering a box. I would spend almost no
> >> >time wondering about console access. It is just not really needed in the
> >> >business world. Console access is something to worry about when you are
> >> >competing for the boss' job. Not on the first level admin job.
> >> >
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> >> >Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net
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