which prebuilt linux boxes seem to work best?

[Brent Harding]

Oh, probably won't have to worry about using one, none around where I know
of in most situations.
At 12:56 PM 10/26/00 +1100, you wrote:
>Brent an hp9000 is *not* a pc and does not yet run Linux.
>It runms hp/ux and it is a mini computer.
>They set you back at least 10k so forget that one
>On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 08:03:08PM -0500, Brent Harding wrote:
>> In what way would one install linux on a box like this, serial console is
>> probably quite usefull, (if I could use it with a parallel to serial
>> converter with a dectalk express connected to my laptop's real serial
>> port). Would one just put in the hp supplied CD and do the install by
>> serial or dialin?
>> At 06:07 PM 10/25/00 +1100, you wrote:
>> >My hp9000 model 816 has _no_ monitor it has a serial port. It also has the
>> >ability for a remote dialin port where you can connect a modem. No
>> keyboard or
>> >screen there; I have an hp terminal that comes with it to control it or
a pc.
>> >Now to find a copy of hp/ux for a model 816 :-) Once linux boots we'll try
>> >speakup on the hpux :-)
>> >On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 09:00:47PM -0500, Brent Harding wrote:
>> >> Oh, why then, do they claim to use A/b switches to decide which machine
>> >> they're controlling? I'm not fond of that idea either, but if I have to
>> >> deal with it, because their firewall secures access to that level, which
>> >> I'm not sure it would, it'd be inefficient to do things that way. If
>> >> there's no capability of connecting screens or keyboards, what would be
>> >> used to set it up initially, or reinstall if something goes wrong? Do
these
>> >> machines usually have a program that you run across the network that
works
>> >> no matter what?
>> >> I suppose if I can do most stuff remotely, I could just set up one
speakup
>> >> enabled linux box to control all others with.
>> >> At 07:53 AM 10/23/00 -0500, you wrote:
>> >> >I think Geoff has pointed out the way you will access any machines you
>> >> >need to. It is quite rare for console access to a server that is
cranking
>> >> >away. In fact my business relies on two AIX (Unix varient) machines.
There
>> >> >are only two operations done at console. 
>> >> >
>> >> >The first is tape backup. But really it is more a matter of checking
that
>> >> >files really did backup and putting in the next day's tapes. The
other is
>> >> >that if building power goes out, someone goes to the server room to
ensure
>> >> >all shuts down orderly. Otherwise things are done remotely. In fact,
there
>> >> >are some who consider doing anything locally on a server that could be
>> >> >done safely remotely to be a security transgression. Also, there are
many
>> >> >servers out there with no keyboard or monitor connected. (And a few
with
>> >> >no video to connect a monitor.) The only operation done at the
console is
>> >> >hitting the power switch.
>> >> >
>> >> >If one is trying to prepare for a job they hope for, I would recomend
>> >> >learning all one can about administering a box. I would spend almost no
>> >> >time wondering about console access. It is just not really needed in
the
>> >> >business world. Console access is something to worry about when you are
>> >> >competing for the boss' job. Not on the first level admin job.
>> >> >
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