Dumb post to the Stargardts Facebook group
haden.pike at gmail.com
Thu Apr 11 18:48:36 EDT 2013
Figured I'd toss my two cents in here.
Yes I learned braille when I was younger, but I don't see that as
effecting how I write. I rely on speech, not because I want to, but
because I have to. I have very little feeling left in my finger tips.
On a side note, people have told me that they are terrible at reading
code without a braille display, which, as a computer science
undergraduate is something I find extremely interesting. I take the
time to proof-read everything I write--even if it's on Twitter where
grammatical errors proliferate as you attempt to make your thought fit
into 140 characters. If the screen reader miss-pronounces something,
it's generally a good indicator that it's spelled wrong. For instance,
I put two (f)'s in proliferate.
On 4/10/2013 4:33 AM, Tony Baechler wrote:
> Actually, you bring up an interesting point. I don't have the problem
> with typing the dollar and number signs like you described, but I've
> seen a problem with some devices not reverse translating Braille as
> they should. A particular instance of this comes to mind. Back in
> school, I had a test with true or false questions. I answered either
> "t" or "f" as one would expect. For some reason, when it was printed
> out, it got turned into "that" and "from." The teacher didn't know
> why, but of course I recognized the problem. That's why there is
> either grade I or computer Braille which is what I should've used, but
> I didn't know it would do that. Similarly, a blind person was asking
> me a question and the sentence ended with "en?" which was supposed to
> be "enough." I'm not sure why the notetakers have difficulty in back
> translation, but it seems to be common. NFBTrans didn't seem to have
> that problem.
> Also like you, I'm not a regular Braille reader nowadays and I usually
> don't have the screen reader read out punctuation. However, what I
> think you aren't realizing is that since you know Braille, you don't
> need to know where the punctuation is. In other words, I know that a
> period goes at the end of a sentence which is a statement and a
> question mark goes at the end of a question. I don't hear passages of
> text as one continuous stream of words with a short pause separating
> them sometimes, if that makes sense. If I never knew Braille, I
> wouldn't know that. I can tell by how you write that you at least
> learned some Braille and know enough to form a proper sentence. I've
> seen several blind people who use no punctuation at all and sound
> uneducated in their writing style. I'm not saying that everything
> needs to be 100% perfect, especially nowadays with email and text
> messages, but it's downright confusing when there is no separation
> between sentences and thoughts.
> As a final note, I'm terrible at reading aloud and avoid it when
> possible. While I do know Braille, I'm not the fastest or best Braille
> reader by any means. I'm afraid I've got out of practice because I
> rely so much more on speech and DAISY books nowadays.
> On 4/9/2013 1:34 PM, Hart Larry wrote:
>> Well, I know in advance my comments are an alternative. First, when this
>> thread began, I figured it was off-topic and Kirk would probably put
>> an end
>> to it. On another hand, as American English spelling is not a consistant
>> science, it would seem unlikely to just memerize thousands of spellings.
>> Sure when I was younger, Braille was nearly an only way to read, but
>> in the
>> late50s I was quite interested in Baseball and the Space Program, but
>> it were text books which were available. I was never a good or
>> Braille reader. About a only time I read outloud is at our anual Pass
>> I know there are both sighted-and-blind folks who are phonatical about
>> spelling-and-punctuation. I look at especially spelling-and-moreover
>> as a way to convey ideas-and-concepts. I know it drives some crazy if
>> I use
>> a number in the middle of a word.
>> Growing up with Braille also teaches bad habbits in typing. For example,
>> when I would type an amount of money, I would type symbols of "dollar
>> sign""number sign" followed by an amount.
>> As an unconventional, I really like having dashes separating some
>> words, I
>> guess because I don't really like dead-air and so a dash would
>> keep sound alive.
>> In conclusion, since many of us are not always writing executive
>> letters, we're symply conveying opinions-and-information. Sure getting a
>> wrong letter in an url, well, thats important. As a strictly speech
>> listener, I try when I can to hear as little punctuation as I can. I
>> when I've tried spelling checkers in Pine, they were harder to navigate.
>> Thanks for listening.
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