Speakup's future

Will Smith wilsmith at iglou.com
Sun Dec 30 22:07:16 EST 2007

I am interested in learning linux, but right now I prefer using the Unix 
shell and msdos.  My dos screen reader is ASAP, perhaps the best such 
product ever developed.  I am not interested in anything about JFW except 
how those rascals managed to extract so much money from blindness agencies 
and individuals.

wilsmith at iglou.com
  On Sun, 30 Dec 2007, Glenn Ervin wrote:

> I think that many windows users wish to move to Linux, as people are getting
> fed-up with Microsoft.
> Learning the new OS is difficult for some, I rather enjoy that challenge
> myself.
> But for those who don't want the challenge, the odd keyboard mapping will be
> enough to make them go back to Microsoft very quickly, in my opinion.
> I have a pretty good handle on how others manage the computer, and different
> systems, as part of my job is teaching computer use to people, and learning
> new mapping on top of a new OS is like someone learning a screen-reader
> while learning to type, in that two new things at once are very frustrating
> to folks.
> I can handle different keyboard mappings, but I hate it, as I am focusing on
> other aspects of what I am doing, and having to remember what keystrokes for
> this and that is not what I am usually trying to accomplish at any given
> moment.
> Glenn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg at romuald.net.eu.org>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Speakup's future
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> I have to second this. While we're discussing speakup keyboard layouts
> matching windows screen readers, why should we limit the proposals to
> layouts for jfw only? Why not also implement layouts for
> wineyes/hal/system access/whatever else is out there?
> As for the statement that a jfw keymap would translate into more
> people using speakup, I don't follow here. While I myself have never
> used jfw, I realize that a large group of people is using it out there
> when it comes to windows access. Even so, we need to remember that
> speakup provides access to a gnu/linux console, which is as different
> from jfw/windows, as an airplane is from a bike. Simply having a jfw
> keyboard layout isn't going to motivate more people to drop the
> windows gui in favor of the gnu/linux console. The only thing that
> will provide such motivation is the desire to become less dependent
> on/independent of M$ and the AT companies. In that case, learning a
> new screen reader keyboard layout is going to be no sweat, compared to
> learning a new screen reader in terms of the functionality it
> provides, and a new os. Just my $0.01 worth.
> Greg
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 04:17:10PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
>> I think compatibility with latest kernels and more mainstreaming is
>> far more important than JFW keyboard look-alikes.  The world does
>> *NOT* revolve around Jaws!
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