Speakup's future

Glenn Ervin GlennErvin at cableone.net
Sun Dec 30 21:59:16 EST 2007

I think that many windows users wish to move to Linux, as people are getting 
fed-up with Microsoft.
Learning the new OS is difficult for some, I rather enjoy that challenge 
But for those who don't want the challenge, the odd keyboard mapping will be 
enough to make them go back to Microsoft very quickly, in my opinion.
I have a pretty good handle on how others manage the computer, and different 
systems, as part of my job is teaching computer use to people, and learning 
new mapping on top of a new OS is like someone learning a screen-reader 
while learning to type, in that two new things at once are very frustrating 
to folks.
I can handle different keyboard mappings, but I hate it, as I am focusing on 
other aspects of what I am doing, and having to remember what keystrokes for 
this and that is not what I am usually trying to accomplish at any given 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg at romuald.net.eu.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: Speakup's future

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I have to second this. While we're discussing speakup keyboard layouts
matching windows screen readers, why should we limit the proposals to
layouts for jfw only? Why not also implement layouts for
wineyes/hal/system access/whatever else is out there?

As for the statement that a jfw keymap would translate into more
people using speakup, I don't follow here. While I myself have never
used jfw, I realize that a large group of people is using it out there
when it comes to windows access. Even so, we need to remember that
speakup provides access to a gnu/linux console, which is as different
from jfw/windows, as an airplane is from a bike. Simply having a jfw
keyboard layout isn't going to motivate more people to drop the
windows gui in favor of the gnu/linux console. The only thing that
will provide such motivation is the desire to become less dependent
on/independent of M$ and the AT companies. In that case, learning a
new screen reader keyboard layout is going to be no sweat, compared to
learning a new screen reader in terms of the functionality it
provides, and a new os. Just my $0.01 worth.


On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 04:17:10PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
> I think compatibility with latest kernels and more mainstreaming is
> far more important than JFW keyboard look-alikes.  The world does
> *NOT* revolve around Jaws!

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