: Using enter or using arrows, that is the question

[Willem van der Walt]

Yes, and we had to do deskchecking because computer time was so expensive.
I am about eight years behind you though.
Regards, Willem


On Sat, 13 Apr 2019, Didier Spaier wrote:

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> Hello
>
> Well, this discussion just reminds me how old I am as I
> wrote a system specification for the first time 42 years ago...
>
> Then things were going this way:
> requirements > specification > development
> Now things are going the other way round in many cases <smile>
>
> No pun intended, sorry for the digression.
>
> Best,
>
> Didier
>
> On 13/04/2019 21:44, Janina Sajka wrote:
>> Chuck's observation that one can continually press enter to keep
>> raising, or lowering levels sounds good enough to me. I think that's
>> sufficiently performant, so I am no longer thinking your design is at
>> all cumbersome. Color me convinced! <smile>
>>
>> Janina
>>
>> Willem van der Walt writes:
>>> Hi all,
>>> Janina, thanks for the suggestion, but no, I am writing this in python,
>>> alsamixer is written in C as far as I know.
>>> It is just the way  I have written the code which kind of precludes the
>>> up/down arrow thing, and that I do not really see what is so wrong with the
>>> current way things are done.
>>> What I might consider doing, would be to replace the two options, one for up
>>> and one for down, with one option, e.g.
>>> Playback volume 30 percent
>>> I can then make it use two other keys, e.g. pageup and pagedown or f2 and f3
>>> to go softer or louder.
>>> I am not that keen on doing it, as it deviates from the way things are
>>> selected and used throughout the rest of the program.
>>> The up/down arrows are already used to move among the options.
>>> Left and right arrows would be the obvious choice, but I am using speakup
>>> and it will say space if I use them.
>>> One can also make the keys configurable later.
>>> One needs the percentages when e.g. trying to get a silent soundcard going,
>>> and if I take it out there, how would you know at what levels the controls
>>> are?
>>>
>>>  Hope this make sens.
>>> Willem
>>>
>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2019, Janina Sajka wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hmmm, I hadn't considered that simply repeated presses of enter would
>>>> continue to adjust levels in realtime. That just might be good enough,
>>>> imo.
>>>>
>>>> RE: How to put such behavior on the up/down keys, alsamixer is likely
>>>> the source to copy from.
>>>>
>>>> Janina
>>>>
>>>> Chuck Hallenbeck writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I prefer to remain witgh the use of enter to make adjustments in
>>>>> controls suchaas Master, for instance, which makes a lot of sense given
>>>>> that upward adjustment and downward adjustment are offered as separate
>>>>> items in the menu for that control. Arrowing to the upward item and
>>>>> pressing enter makes the adjustment and leaves the control selected,
>>>>> so that pressing enter repeatedly makes a series of  adjustments in
>>>>> the same direction. It's beautiful to see the percent figure change and
>>>>> hear the perceived loudness change in sync with the numeric value. I'm
>>>>> not sure how one would put the entire job of making adjustment onto
>>>>> the arrow keys.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just my $0.02 worth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> Janina Sajka
>>>>
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