command line email clients and gmail.com

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2018, Tom Fowle wrote:

> Also using fastmail.com I have the feeling they may some time require two
> part authentication, hope mutt will support that.
> It is a paid service but not expensive.
> extremely reliable and they even admit when they do have problems.
>
> Tom Fowle WA6IVG
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:43:08AM -0500, Chris Nestrud wrote:
>> I've had good luck with Fastmail, www.fastmail.com. Two-factor is
>> available but not nandatory. Option of per-app passwords so if someone
>> gets the password you use for mutt, they can't access the other features
>> of your account. I'm using it successfully for sending and receiving
>> mail using mutt under Linux, Outlook under iOS, and the standard mail
>> program on iPhone.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 08:17:21AM -0700, Don Raikes wrote:
>> > So if gmail is not a viable option what are others using instead?
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com> 
>> > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 7:22 AM
>> > To: Chuck Hallenbeck <chuckhallenbeck at gmail.com>; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup at linux-speakup.org>
>> > Subject: Re: command line email clients and gmail.com
>> > 
>> > I wasn't able to do so without a huge amount of inconvenience.  Here's the rest of that story too.  I went as far as enabling two-step authentication in February of 2018.  Last week I tried logging into my google account.  My password was complex and 20 characters in length the last time I logged into that account successfully.  Last week the password had been changed and whoever did that had it shortened to 14 characters.  I ended up deleting my account.  If I ever create another google account I will not use any of google's enhanced security features since all of them only provide the authorized users a huge amount of hassle and are trivial for hackers to crack.
>> > 
>> > On Sun, 10 Jun 2018, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:
>> > 
>> > > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 20:14:48
>> > > From: Chuck Hallenbeck <chuckhallenbeck at gmail.com>
>> > > To: "speakup at linux-speakup.org" <speakup at linux-speakup.org>
>> > > Subject: command line email clients and gmail.com
>> > >
>> > > Hi folks,
>> > >
>> > > On my archlinux system with its command line  environment, I have 
>> > > three email clients able to send mail directly to my gmail smtp server 
>> > > at port 587.
>> > >
>> > > 1. mutt with msmtp.
>> > >
>> > > 2. alpine
>> > >
>> > > 3. edbrowse.
>> > >
>> > > All three methods work only when my google account  security settings 
>> > > have enabled something called "Allow access by less secure apps.
>> > >
>> > > Recently I have been asked by google to disable that feature for 
>> > > security reasons, but doing so prevents my outgoing mail from being 
>> > > accepted by smtp.gmail.com.
>> > >
>> > > Anybody else able to use  gmail.com with that security feature 
>> > > disabled, as google advises?  Suggestions appreciated.
>> > >
>> > > Chuck
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > 
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