command line email clients and gmail.com

[Tom Fowle]

Also using fastmail.com I have the feeling they may some time require two
part authentication, hope mutt will support that.
It is a paid service but not expensive.
extremely reliable and they even admit when they do have problems.

Tom Fowle WA6IVG

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:43:08AM -0500, Chris Nestrud wrote:
> I've had good luck with Fastmail, www.fastmail.com. Two-factor is
> available but not nandatory. Option of per-app passwords so if someone
> gets the password you use for mutt, they can't access the other features
> of your account. I'm using it successfully for sending and receiving
> mail using mutt under Linux, Outlook under iOS, and the standard mail
> program on iPhone.
> 
> Chris
> 
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 08:17:21AM -0700, Don Raikes wrote:
> > So if gmail is not a viable option what are others using instead?
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com> 
> > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 7:22 AM
> > To: Chuck Hallenbeck <chuckhallenbeck at gmail.com>; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup at linux-speakup.org>
> > Subject: Re: command line email clients and gmail.com
> > 
> > I wasn't able to do so without a huge amount of inconvenience.  Here's the rest of that story too.  I went as far as enabling two-step authentication in February of 2018.  Last week I tried logging into my google account.  My password was complex and 20 characters in length the last time I logged into that account successfully.  Last week the password had been changed and whoever did that had it shortened to 14 characters.  I ended up deleting my account.  If I ever create another google account I will not use any of google's enhanced security features since all of them only provide the authorized users a huge amount of hassle and are trivial for hackers to crack.
> > 
> > On Sun, 10 Jun 2018, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:
> > 
> > > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 20:14:48
> > > From: Chuck Hallenbeck <chuckhallenbeck at gmail.com>
> > > To: "speakup at linux-speakup.org" <speakup at linux-speakup.org>
> > > Subject: command line email clients and gmail.com
> > >
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > On my archlinux system with its command line  environment, I have 
> > > three email clients able to send mail directly to my gmail smtp server 
> > > at port 587.
> > >
> > > 1. mutt with msmtp.
> > >
> > > 2. alpine
> > >
> > > 3. edbrowse.
> > >
> > > All three methods work only when my google account  security settings 
> > > have enabled something called "Allow access by less secure apps.
> > >
> > > Recently I have been asked by google to disable that feature for 
> > > security reasons, but doing so prevents my outgoing mail from being 
> > > accepted by smtp.gmail.com.
> > >
> > > Anybody else able to use  gmail.com with that security feature 
> > > disabled, as google advises?  Suggestions appreciated.
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
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