command line email clients and gmail.com

Chuck Hallenbeck chuckhallenbeck at gmail.com
Mon Jun 11 15:10:25 EDT 2018


Hi Chris

I also was a huge fan of fastmail, abandoning them when they retired
their "classic" interface, which made their remaining "standard" site
inaccessible to the command line tools I had available here.

When some folks say "classic" I guess they mean "old-fashioned." I'd
return to them in a minute if I could

Chuck


On Mon, 11 Jun 2018, Chris Nestrud wrote:

> I've had good luck with Fastmail, www.fastmail.com. Two-factor is
> available but not nandatory.

>
> Chris
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 08:17:21AM -0700, Don Raikes wrote:
>> So if gmail is not a viable option what are others using instead?
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com> 
>> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 7:22 AM
>> To: Chuck Hallenbeck <chuckhallenbeck at gmail.com>; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup at linux-speakup.org>
>> Subject: Re: command line email clients and gmail.com
>> 
>> I wasn't able to do so without a huge amount of inconvenience.  Here's the rest of that story too.  I went as far as enabling two-step authentication in February of 2018.  Last week I tried logging into my google account.  My password was complex and 20 characters in length the last time I logged into that account successfully.  Last week the password had been changed and whoever did that had it shortened to 14 characters.  I ended up deleting my account.  If I ever create another google account I will not use any of google's enhanced security features since all of them only provide the authorized users a huge amount of hassle and are trivial for hackers to crack.
>> 
>> On Sun, 10 Jun 2018, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:
>> 
>> > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 20:14:48
>> > From: Chuck Hallenbeck <chuckhallenbeck at gmail.com>
>> > To: "speakup at linux-speakup.org" <speakup at linux-speakup.org>
>> > Subject: command line email clients and gmail.com
>> >
>> > Hi folks,
>> >
>> > On my archlinux system with its command line  environment, I have 
>> > three email clients able to send mail directly to my gmail smtp server 
>> > at port 587.
>> >
>> > 1. mutt with msmtp.
>> >
>> > 2. alpine
>> >
>> > 3. edbrowse.
>> >
>> > All three methods work only when my google account  security settings 
>> > have enabled something called "Allow access by less secure apps.
>> >
>> > Recently I have been asked by google to disable that feature for 
>> > security reasons, but doing so prevents my outgoing mail from being 
>> > accepted by smtp.gmail.com.
>> >
>> > Anybody else able to use  gmail.com with that security feature 
>> > disabled, as google advises?  Suggestions appreciated.
>> >
>> > Chuck
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> 
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