command line email clients and gmail.com

[Chris Nestrud]

I've had good luck with Fastmail, www.fastmail.com. Two-factor is
available but not nandatory. Option of per-app passwords so if someone
gets the password you use for mutt, they can't access the other features
of your account. I'm using it successfully for sending and receiving
mail using mutt under Linux, Outlook under iOS, and the standard mail
program on iPhone.

Chris

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 08:17:21AM -0700, Don Raikes wrote:
> So if gmail is not a viable option what are others using instead?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com> 
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 7:22 AM
> To: Chuck Hallenbeck <chuckhallenbeck at gmail.com>; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup at linux-speakup.org>
> Subject: Re: command line email clients and gmail.com
> 
> I wasn't able to do so without a huge amount of inconvenience.  Here's the rest of that story too.  I went as far as enabling two-step authentication in February of 2018.  Last week I tried logging into my google account.  My password was complex and 20 characters in length the last time I logged into that account successfully.  Last week the password had been changed and whoever did that had it shortened to 14 characters.  I ended up deleting my account.  If I ever create another google account I will not use any of google's enhanced security features since all of them only provide the authorized users a huge amount of hassle and are trivial for hackers to crack.
> 
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2018, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:
> 
> > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 20:14:48
> > From: Chuck Hallenbeck <chuckhallenbeck at gmail.com>
> > To: "speakup at linux-speakup.org" <speakup at linux-speakup.org>
> > Subject: command line email clients and gmail.com
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > On my archlinux system with its command line  environment, I have 
> > three email clients able to send mail directly to my gmail smtp server 
> > at port 587.
> >
> > 1. mutt with msmtp.
> >
> > 2. alpine
> >
> > 3. edbrowse.
> >
> > All three methods work only when my google account  security settings 
> > have enabled something called "Allow access by less secure apps.
> >
> > Recently I have been asked by google to disable that feature for 
> > security reasons, but doing so prevents my outgoing mail from being 
> > accepted by smtp.gmail.com.
> >
> > Anybody else able to use  gmail.com with that security feature 
> > disabled, as google advises?  Suggestions appreciated.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> >
> 
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