Why I can't recommend Arch or Gentoo

[Karen Lewellen]

Just an aside on the cd media  issue.
Perhaps you have not considered that Linux is not simply a north American 
effort.  additionally even in North America, a person just starting out 
with  Linux might get their hardware second hand.  for example from any of 
the many freecycle groups around the globe.
Those machines will still use cds, which is why they are second hand.  You 
can  still purchase blank cd media as well.
So do you really want to prevent a person from trying this distribution if 
they are starting at the bottom based on the thinking of those who have 
used it for a while?
I am simply speaking in general here.  If I were making this decision, I 
would keep a cd simply because  there can still be an audience for it.
Just my totally from the sidelines thought.
Karen


On Tue, 22 Sep 2015, Tony Baechler wrote:

> I'm not going to quote Kyle's very long reply here, but I'll address the 
> highlights:
>
> 1. No, I wasn't complaining.  I was simply pointing out observations.  I 
> apologize if it came across as complaining, but I tried to keep things as 
> unbiased as possible.
>
> 2. My live CD is meant as a rescue CD since there currently isn't a Debian 
> rescue CD, let alone a talking one.  One can install it to a hard drive if 
> they wish, but that's not the purpose.  As I also mentioned but you failed to 
> address, Debian is eventually going to get this fixed and it will talk, so 
> there will be no need for my CD.
>
> 3. I was not complaining about or requesting CD media.  Some people have 
> mentioned this and older machines might not have DVD readers.  That's it. 
> Personally, I agree with you that CD media is probably no longer necessary.
>  My live CD is at the max of 700 MB now and is still missing packages I 
> want to add.  I'm faced with the choice of freezing development or growing to 
> DVD media.
>
> No, I won't join your IRC channel and no, I won't bother with the sound card 
> issue.  It is a Sound Blaster Audigy and the issue has been fixed in Debian, 
> so borrow their ALSA configuration.  I did read the blog before downloading 
> the CD image several months back.  Eventually, I'll take another look at 
> Arch, but not for a while.
>
> Finally, not once did I say Arch is bad or what you're doing is bad.  I have 
> suggested Talking Arch a few times, but people weren't interested.  For the 
> few people who only want the console for whatever reason, Arch is a good 
> alternative and I didn't say otherwise.  I simply pointed out why I 
> personally can't recommend it.  I look at several issues, such as what I 
> previously mentioned.  There is no public bug tracker specific to Talking 
> Arch, there are only two developers, support email didn't get answered, etc.
>  That is understandable given the volunteer nature of the project, but does 
> unfortunately mean I can't recommend it to the masses.  I'm never 
> close-minded, so when you feel this issues have been addressed, please post 
> here or contact me and I'll take another look.
>
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