Why I can't recommend Arch or Gentoo

[Michał Zegan]

He just said he is technically unable to fix it without help as he is 
unable to reproduce the problem himself, or something similar.

W dniu 21.09.2015 o 16:17, Littlefield, Tyler pisze:
> This email seems more geared at being self defensive and passive
> aggressive than it does in trying to fix the actual problems. Rather
> than stating that you can but it probably won't happen, just state that
> you can fix it provided help? There's no need to throw a tantrum.
> On 9/21/2015 10:11 AM, Kyle wrote:
>> First of all, if you had taken the time to have a look at the blog for
>> TalkingArch
>> https://blog.talkingarch.tk/
>> you would have seen the post where I specifically mentioned that an
>> older CD-sized image was still available, and how to request it. I
>> still don't know how Arch itself will handle being larger than 700MB,
>> which will likely happen by the end of the year, but I'm guessing they
>> will have similar requirements, possibly with no way to request a CD
>> copy. I do keep July's iso around, which is the last one under 700MB.
>> To be quite honest with you, I have only had one complaint about the
>> iso being larger than 700MB, and it comes from you, and is a complaint
>> about the image being too big for a CD instead of the expected request
>> for a smaller image. I have mentioned the size increases in several
>> places since April or May of this year, and have even tried to get
>> input from users, and all the input I have gotten until now indicated
>> that I should just go ahead and build the larger images, because no one
>> uses CD's that can't write to a flash drive or DVD instead. My
>> comaintainer did mention keeping around a smaller copy while it works,
>> so I have done this, providing a way to request this smaller copy if
>> needed. Although it hasn't yet been a month, I have absolutely 0
>> requests for a CD-sized copy of TalkingArch until you cited this as a
>> reason why you can't recommend it, which I must see as a baseless
>> complaint rather than a serious request for an image of a smaller size.
>>
>> Regarding the sound problem on your specific card, I can probably fix
>> this if I have a little more information about the problem. On my
>> system, the emu10k1 driver works perfectly, and there is no problem
>> with the volume. So the problem appears to be specific to your card
>> rather than the driver itself. Given this, I will be unable to test
>> your device without your participation, and since you have as much as
>> said that you are not interested in Arch at all, I will be unable to
>> help you fix your specific problem, not due to a lack of interest on my
>> part, but due to your unwillingness to help test any fixes I may be
>> able to make, and my inability to test such fixes on my own.
>>
>> Regarding brltty, I have no braille equipment, nor do I have any serial
>> speech synthesizer, so I am unable to test this either. My comaintainer
>> is able to work with braille, and I believe external speech as well, so
>> he may be able to help you, but then again, you have only complained
>> about the way we handle TalkingArch on a public list, and how much
>> better you feel Debian and Ubuntu are, rather than reporting a problem
>> in an attempt to get it fixed, so there's again probably little we can
>> do.
>>
>> Regarding blind specific distros, I have just as much of a problem with
>> them as you, but TalkingArch is *only* the talking live image, and is
>> not a blind specific distro. Once you install TalkingArch, what you
>> actually end up with is Arch Linux, just as you would have had you
>> installed it from the Arch iso at https://archlinux.org/. This is
>> completely intentional, as we wanted it to be just as close to Arch
>> Linux in form and function as possible, and the installation process
>> should give you the real thing, not some sort of a blind specific
>> install, unless you perform the extra installation steps to get a
>> talking system. That said, I find it rather odd that you complain about
>> what we didn't fix soon enough for you in TalkingArch, and how bad you
>> think blind specific distros are, but then you turn right around and
>> say that you'll be making a talking Debian live CD that is essentially
>> TalkingArch for Debian with a single developer, specifically you,
>> because you think you can somehow do it better. Well, I guess that
>> means that we can't expect any participation from you at all, either in
>> making fixes or testing them. I do, however, wish you the best of luck
>> in your endeavor. Debian is indeed a good distro to work with, and I'm
>> sure it will serve you well.
>>
>> Regarding TalkingArch not starting with a working graphical
>> environment, TalkingArch is not the only talking image available that
>> is based at least partially on Arch Linux. Sonar is based on Manjaro,
>> which is an Arch-based distro, and it does start with a talking
>> graphical environment, either MATE or GNOME, your choice. It has a very
>> similar rolling release model to Arch, but addes unstable, testing and
>> stable branches somewhat similar to Debian, but kept up-to-date with
>> the latest software. Perhaps this would be better for those who need a
>> talking graphical desktop.
>>
>> Finally, I do wish to apologize for any e-mail I may have missed at the
>> TalkingArch support address. I do know that I missed some, and wasn't
>> able to answer some others in a timely manner. At this point, I believe
>> I'm the only one handling the support e-mail, so if your question went
>> unanswered, it was not due to a lack of interest in fixing a problem,
>> but possibly either an oversite on my part or a question for which I
>> was unable to find an answer. Perhaps the IRC channel would have solved
>> your problem more quickly, as there are more people who can help you.
>> #talkingarch at irc.netwirc.tk is always open, and you can even request
>> a CD image there. The entire aim of this channel is to be as fun and
>> friendly as possible, and to help you in any way we can. That said,
>> biters will be bitten back, as we do have an uncensored channel.
>> Therefore, if you want a fun and friendly place to hang out and to
>> discuss TalkingArch or anything else, feel free to drop in, but do be
>> friendly yourself in order to keep the temperature from rising too
>> high.
>> Sent from my something or other
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