CygWin in windows

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vmware workstation 12 is pretty nice, for windows vm's I recomend a
windows host, however.  Hyperv is very nice as well and its free, but it
requires some more hefty hardware.

Glenn <glennervin at cableone.net> wrote:

> Hi Tony,
> I have several Linux distros on thumb drives, but my main reason for wanting 
> CygWin is that if I want to access my network computers or have more power 
> with external drives, I wanted to be able to do so without rebooting my 
> system.
> I really did not want to have to go to something like VmWare, but maybe I 
> can with Arch or Ubuntu Mate.
> I mainly use the terminal in Linux, but I like the GUI for a few things, 
> like connecting to WIFI.
> Glenn
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tony Baechler" <tony at baechler.net>
> To: "Glenn" <GlennErvin at cableone.net>; "Speakup is a screen review system 
> for Linux." <speakup at linux-speakup.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 3:57 AM
> Subject: Re: CygWin in windows
> 
> 
> Others have already addressed some of your questions, but since I use it on
> a daily basis, I thought I would throw in my two cents.
> 
> On 11/27/2015 2:51 PM, Glenn wrote:
> > I want to have access to some of the power of Linux.
> 
> First, it's called Cygwin.  Second, it isn't Linux and you'll never have the
> full power, flexibility and accessibility of Linux within any Windows
> environment.  They're apples and oranges.  That said, Cygwin does have lots
> of packages found in most Linux distros and it's a good learning
> environment.  It lets you run bash, compile software, etc without actually
> having to install Linux, but see below.
> 
> > I'm most familiar with Debian-based systems.
> 
> It's developed by Red Hat, so don't expect Debian commands to work.  It does
> ship dpkg however, so in theory, it could be used as a base for a
> Debian-like Windows environment.  I don't know if it ships apt.  It isn't
> RPM-based.  It uses tar.bz2 for packages.
> 
> > I use Jaws, and the CygWin terminal does not automatically read the 
> > returned information, and I don't like routing the Jaws cursor to read the 
> > terminal.
> 
> Try say all.  I use both Window-Eyes and NVDA with reasonable success.  NVDA
> is the far better choice and has the best terminal support of any Windows
> screen reader.  WE is pretty good, but doesn't always read the text on the
> screen and often doesn't read the last line of the display.
> 
> > Can SpeakUp be installed into CygWin?
> 
> 
> As Gregory said, no.  It's not Linux and doesn't run a Linux kernel.  You
> would need either a virtual machine or a real Linux environment.  I'm
> working on a talking live CD based on Ubuntu which might interest you.  It
> doesn't change anything on your machine but lets you boot a fully working
> Linux system with speech.
> 
> The way I use Cygwin is probably not typical.  I have only a minimal system
> consisting of bash, ssh and rsync.  I ssh to my remote servers and do my
> work on them, so I don't need a full Cygwin environment.  There are good
> reasons not to install all available Cygwin packages.  Cygwin ships X, KDE
> and Gnome, but I don't think it ships Orca and I have no idea how accessible
> it is.  If you want a talking X environment which works with Orca, I would
> highly recommend Ubuntu MATE.
> 
> You can get a VPS for very cheap.  Linux will almost always run faster than
> the same programs in Windows.  It's possible to do what I do on an almost
> daily basis and ssh to the remote server or VPS, do your work and use rsync
> to download anything you need.  If you have lots of disk space, you can of
> course install a full Cygwin environment, but don't be surprised if it runs
> very slowly compared to Linux.  I haven't used a full Cygwin setup for many
> years, but part of why I abandoned it is because what took 10 minutes in
> Cygwin took 30 seconds in Linux, without exaggeration.  They are constantly
> making improvements though and Cygwin is probably better now.  As it
> happens, I can sell a VPS which fits your needs and budget.  If you're
> interested, please let me know what you're looking for and the price range.
>   As I said, you can get them very cheaply and that still gives you the full
> power of Linux without the hassle of fighting with the very difficult Cygwin
> setup program.
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