FW: Running Speakup on Ubuntu (fwd)

[Sina Bahram]

Meant to send this to this list, sorry.

Take care,
Sina


-----Original Message-----
From: Sina Bahram [mailto:sbahram at nc.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 10:26 PM
To: 'tyler at tysdomain.com'; programmingblind at freelists.org
Subject: RE: Running Speakup on Ubuntu (fwd)

I believe it to be unproductive, misleading, and obviously ignorant, to say things about Vinux that you so clearly can't
substantiate.

Opinions are one thing, but you just sent a post to this list highlighting the fact that someone shouldn't give misleading
information, and then within 24 to 48 hours, you do exactly that.

What's more, you don't even have a clear idea on how to fix the problem, and I guarantee you Tyler that you don't understand the
nuances or complexities of the problem because you haven't taken any time to bother learning them. This is putting aside the issue
of the problem actually being nontrivial. Furthermore, you don't even care to figure it out.

Your words are extremely frustrating to individuals who spent countless hours of their time and effort working on Vinux, and other
accessibility solutions for that matter.

Take care,
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: Littlefield, Tyler [mailto:tyler at tysdomain.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 6:53 PM
To: Sina Bahram
Subject: Re: Running Speakup on Ubuntu (fwd)

Sina:
Thanks for your response.
I don't really much care for trying to figure out the mess. My point was 
that it was cobbled together, Everything just sort of was made to work 
for the time being without any insite into the future, and now it's 
falling apart. On another note, I mentioned running espeakup (which 
would I think, elimenate the need for a secondary speech-dispatcher to 
run), though I could be wrong. I just thought it might be a bit of a 
solution, anyway.

On 5/31/2011 4:20 PM, Sina Bahram wrote:
> Tyler, I completely agree.
>
> I feel that you, sir, and only you can fix it.
>
> Thus, please help us fix it from the cobbled mess it is.
>
>   Please provide a working solution for the problem highlighted below between pulseaudio in system wide mode, etc. etc.
>
> I'll give you a freebee. You don't even have to implement your solution. Just detail it in full please.
>
> You obviously know more about this problem than anyone else, so please explain very clearly where Vinux has gone wrong in
> pulseaudio, speakup, and orca support.
>
> I eagerly await your productive response.
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 6:03 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: Running Speakup on Ubuntu (fwd)
>
> I think the problem is they've cobbled Vinux together, and now the
> bubble gum acting as glue is finally falling apart.
> On another note, why not use espeakup? It works with pulse, no?
> On 5/31/2011 3:52 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 05:13:39
>> From: Tony Sales<tony.sales at rncb.ac.uk>
>> To: "'Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com'"
>>       <Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: Running Speakup on Ubuntu
>>
>> Is anyone able to get speakup running on anUbuntu installation (or live CD) which has the default orca  screen-reader option
> enabled - in other words - which has Orca running and Pulseaudio running in user mode? Or even on a plain Ubuntu without Orca
> enabled - I have been trying to do this for a week and have not made any progress. I am not sure whether the problem is pulsaudio
or
> speech-dispatcher or speech-up - but I suspect it maybe caused by speech-dispatcher as I am able to run pulseaudio and speech-up
> without any error messages. But I get an error about speech-dispatcher being disabled if I try to start that in a console.
> Speech-dispatcher seems to be set not to run in system mode by default.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>


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