a very important notice for people using Speakup on Arch Linux

[Littlefield, Tyler]

Usually on servers you don't reboot every time a new kernel comes out 
anyway, nor do you have to use lots of modules generally, especially if 
you use a custom kernel. A kernel upgrade comes in if there was a 
security issue in your kernel and you need to upgrade, but there are 
still servers running 2.6.18, which I remember from years and years ago, 
back when I started with Linux.
On 1/31/2011 8:01 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> Yes, I think not expecting a reboot after a majer version change of
> the kernel is highly unrealistic.  I also concer  with other posts
> that with all the modules used by the kernel these days, it would seem
> necessary to me to expect to reboot to get the new modules loaded.
>
> Also, I had to rebuild my rtl8192se package from AUR this morning
> because the modules there were still pointing to 2.6.36.  I wondered
> why my wireless network capability went to hell after rebooting with
> the 2.6.37 kernel.  Then it dawned on me that I might need to revisit
> that and even after rebuilding and installing the updated package, I
> had to reboot before my network would come up.  Sure, I might have
> been able to do a depmod or new modprobes or something but it was just
> easier for me to reboot the thing in this case; this was my laptop and
> sure didn't affect other users<smile>.
>
> BTW Chris, the speakup transition went perfectly.  When I first did a
> pacman -su for this morning I was concerned when I got a dependency
> error with speakup and pacman wouldn't update.  But then after reading
> the posts on this thread, the Arch Linux world is nice and round again
> for me:).  Thanks again for your excelent work in Arch, the speakup
> boot images and on-going support.
>
> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 11:11:39AM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
>> The only OS I know of that can swap a kernel without a reboot is VMS.
>> Yes, you can copy new kernel images and new module trees until you're
>> blue in the face, but it's still not going to load the new image until a
>> reboot
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 05:25:38AM +0000, Frost wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 05:04:14PM +0000, Christopher Brannon wrote:
>>>> When it is time for you to upgrade to version 2.6.37, you should first
>>>> remove the old speakup package (pacman -R speakup). Reboot,
>>> 	Why does Arch Linux need to be rebooted over a kernel exchange?
>>> Does it have proprietary Mickeysoft software in it or something?
>>>
>>> 				Michael
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Thanks,
Ty