testing grml

John G. Heim jheim at math.wisc.edu
Wed Dec 28 10:59:14 EST 2011


Yes, the old swspeak command (or whatever it was ) no longer works. You have 
to type in the modprobe command for your particular speech synth. Once the 
tone sounds, press 'q' to quit the quick help menu, and then type your 
modprobe command.

Speaking for the grml developers, I can tell you they didn't make the 
decision to drop the boot options easily.  But they are suffering a manpower 
shortage and actually considered dropping accessibility entirely.  Some of 
us blind folks on the grml support list convinced them that it wouldn't be 
very difficult to continue to support a minimal level of accessibility.  It 
is a really good thing that the speakup modules are now in the regular 
kernel source or we'd probably have lost them.  But they kept the speakup 
modules in, kept sound support, kept   brltty, and added some beeps to hellp 
blind people know where their machine is in the boot process. Also, while 
these are not strictly accessibility features, they continue to support 
access via ssh and serial console.

It may not be ideal but my opinion is that given the manpower issues grml 
faces, the accessibility is pretty good.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry at gotss.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: testing grml


>
> Oh I know all about 2011.05 however the accessibility boot options have 
> been removed in 2011.12 and changed.
>
> I've done imaging tutorials on www.cucat.org/cavicasts/2011
> but need to update my procedures for the new version.
>
> Regards, Kerry.
>
> On 26/12/2011 12:56 AM, bigd wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Haven't tried the livecd since 2008.11, but on that one, I think you 
>> could type
>> grml swspeak
>> to prepare it for speakup. When it's booted fully, you can type swspeak 
>> to activate it. From there, if you think your sound is muted, you should 
>> be able to use alsamixer
>> to adjust the levels. 0-9 should change it to 0-90%, page up and down 
>> should chaneg by about 3 or 5%, up and down should go by one. m should 
>> toggle mute, and left and
>> right should move between devices.
>> It may be different for th elater cds though. Anyway, hope this helps 
>> some :)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> KJ4UFX
>> {.i doi .tcikoritys. mi cuxna ba'e do}
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at
>> 05:41:37PM +0800, Kerry Hoath wrote:
>>>
>>> Did you ever get an answer how to get speakup up and happening under new
>>> grml?
>>> sure it beeps when quick config menu comes up but not sure what to do
>>> with that and no eyes here at the moment.
>>> will report back to the list if I get this sorted.
>>>
>>> Regards, Kerry.
>>>
>>> On 15/12/2011 11:35 PM, John Heim wrote:
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> First of all, grml has a new release candidate out. They could use
>>>> people to test accessibility. Point a vrowser to http://bit.ly/sESUaa
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Second, is there a command to unmute the sound card? I mean, I know you
>>>> can do that with a mixer but I need a command to do it because if there
>>>> is no sound, I can't run the mixer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm pretty sure that software speech is working on this latest grml
>>>> release but I can't confirm it because I can't get sound to work. And I
>>>> think that's because the sound card is muted.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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