Main advantages of SBL over Speakup
Pia
pmikeal at comcast.net
Fri Feb 12 18:17:19 EST 2010
Sorry, I forgot to delete past comments and so the message I sent was too
big and so am re sending it now.
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Pia wrote:
> Actually, most of the 3D stuff if you are good at config files can be
> adminned from the commandline. It is the users that need the 3D workstations
> and of course the HTC clusters are commandline only. My workstation needs
> the GUI for the rare time and I do mean rare that I have to have a GUI in
> order to troubleshoot a user's problem because of the graphical nature of
> their work, but other than that, any admin worth their salt in Unix can make
> most changes behind the scenes via the commandline and in a good text editor
> in console mode. That isn't that strange at all. I for the record did not
> say that speakup would become irrelevant whatsoever. You have me mixed up
> with someone else on the list. I merely pointed out that serial ports are
> starting to go away and that that is a concern. I apologize if I took your
> comments as if they were hostile, but I suppose I get irritated at people
> arrogantly supposing that they know what environment is best for everybody
> and then telling someone who does not choose their way of doing things that
> that person's way is irrelevant. I am glad that the speakup developers are a
> lot better than that in that they actually listen to their users instead of
> telling them how it should be. Screen reader, speech synth, and overall
> environment is a matter of personal choice and what works and so I think it
> is lame to assume that the way you do things is the only relevant way to do
> it. As blind people, we are all fringe cases and so we should learn some
> sensitivity from being on the short end of the stick so many times anyway
> when deciding whose environment matters or not.
>
> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, John G. Heim wrote:
>
>> But I'm not hostile. I haven't said one hostile thing to you. All I've
>> done is point out flaws and inconsistancies in your messages. It seems to
>> me that you're the one trying to force his opinions on others, not me.
>>
>> I am not trying to criticize your personal choices as far as your work
>> environment. But you surely must see that its not typical. For you to claim
>> that speakup is going to become less relevant based on your very unusual
>> needs is truely unfair. You have this unique situation where you want to
>> be bleeding edge (in your own words) while at the same time not. You
>> insist that you have to have this bleeding edge computer for 3D yet you
>> also insist that you have to run your workstation in character mode all the
>> time. Surely you must see that that's not typical. Most people in your
>> position would use orca on their workstation and speakup on their servers.
>> Or maybe they'd use a Windows workstation and still run speakup on their
>> servers.
>>
>> I don't see how you can fail to see how inconsistent your arguments are.
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