Main advantages of SBL over Speakup

[Kerry Hoath]

Actually there is often a header for the serial port on the board but the 
bracket is not provided or wired up.
Regards, Kerry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pia" <pmikeal at comcast.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 2:32 AM
Subject: Re: Main advantages of SBL over Speakup


Totally agreed with you about the need for early boot messages to be
spoken.  Your statement about most boxen having serial ports is incorrect
though.  At work we mostly order new Workstations with Cor i7 CPUs or
build them ourselves with similar specs.  None and I mean none of the
motherboards have serial ports at all.  If your computer does have a
serial port it is getting pretty old, it has an added serial card in an
expansion slot, or it is a server.

Kind Regards,

Pia

On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, John G. Heim wrote:

> Well, perhaps its a minor point but plenty of modern computers have serial
> ports. I've never seen a server that didn't have a serial port. In fact,
> except for laptops, I have yet to see a computer that doesn't have a 
> serial
> port. That includes the 200 or so desktop units we have where I work. Even
> the machine I built myself has a serial port.
>
> It certainly is a huge over statement to say that having speakup in the
> kernel  has no advantage. If you manage servers like I do, having speakup 
> in
> the kernel is just about the most important thing there is for a screen
> reader. I don't really care that much about what happens after the machine 
> is
> booted. About the only time I need a run time screen reader is if 
> something
> is wrong with networking. But mostly, I can admin these machines remotely
> after they boot.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Astrope" <astrope at tabbweb.com>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 3:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Main advantages of SBL over Speakup
>
>
> Samuel, do you mean there is no kernel convention for accessing serial
> ports or there is no speakup support for accessing serial ports according
> to kernel conventions?
>
> It would be really great if speakup could use ttyS# devices, so speakup
> would work with modern motherboards that do not have built-in serial
> ports. The way I see it is speakup can only use software speech on modern
> computers, so unless it can access external serial ports or usb serial
> ports, there really is no advantage to speakup being in the kernel so far
> as I can tell...
>
> On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
>> Bill Cox, le Tue 09 Feb 2010 14:23:25 -0500, a écrit :
>>> I hear that it doesn't follow kernel
>>> programming conventions, for example in how it interfaces to the COM
>>> ports.
>>
>> Yes, because no such thing exists (yet).
>>
>> Samuel
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