How do I get to learn Linux & SpeakUp? Re: How to use espeakup

[Alonzo]

Hello,

Judging from the vinux docs you have to find the installer. it should be 
located on the desktop. press control-alt-d and explore the desktop with the 
arrows.
visit
http://live.gnome.org/Orca
And read how to use orca with gnome and read the reference for orca 
keystrokes.
Otherwise using speakup in the console remains ontopic to the speakup list 
so questions should be directed accordingly.
To get started with speakup though your numbpad is used for navigation with 
speakup
zero is speakup key, 1-3 are to navigate by characters, 4-6 move by word, 
7-9 are lines
Downloading the speakup tarball (zip files for linux) should help you get 
started using speakup in the text console should you happen to explore linux 
using the command line. You should find a folder called docs which should be 
read. I don't recall off hand where the guide is located in the tarball as 
I've not looked in a while.
You can also hear Michael Whapples's audio walk through installation of grml 
to get a feel for how speakup works in the console.
Orca is related to the gnome desktop and questions involving Orca should be 
sent to.
orca-list at gnome.org
live.gnome.org/Orca
should help you in finding the email address to suscribe to the orca email 
list should you have any questions on how to use orca with the gnome desktop 
and orca keystrokes.

I hope this helps.
alonzo


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Tesar" <ptesar at ca.inter.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: How do I get to learn Linux & SpeakUp? Re: How to use espeakup


Here are the steps I took to try Linux (on a live CD) and then attempt to
install it.

I have Windows and JAWS on my first physical disk partitioned into c: and d:
drives. I wanted to play it safe by putting Linux on a second physical disk.
This second disk was just installed but it is not partitioned. I understood
that the installing of Linux would perform the partitioning.

I listened to a few MP3 podcasts explaining how to install various
distributions of Linux. However, since the recordings, Linux versions have
changed and I know very little about Linux ORCA and Speakup.

I chose to start with Vinux. The Dr. Bongo's Vinux Development Blog site
gives 30 steps. From the Vinux UK site I downloaded the ISO file and burned
the live CD.

This Live CD originally worked. Four minutes after booting I heard "Welcome
to ORCA". Then I could tab three times to hear the help, preferences and
quit buttons.

I focused on step 23 which explains How to install Vinux to a hard drive as
a duel system.
It states that the 'Install Vinux to Hard Drive' launcher will allow you to
partition your hard drive and install Vinux to it.

I thought that the five words in quotes should be typed in the console.
Step 13states: you have to press ctrl+alt+F1 from the running Gnome session
or the GDM login screen. You can then use Speakup to input commands from the
console

I pressed control+alt+f1 and then typed:
Install Vinux to Hard Drive (without the quotes).

This produced an error which I can't remember exactly. I could use the ORCA
say lines keys (7, 8 and 9) to review the screen. The ORCA voice is a
challenge to understand.

Now When I boot to the live CD I hear "welcome to ORCA" and then nothing.
Now tabbing no longer results in the buttons being announced.

Since ORCA started with the live CD I thought that it would guide me through
the install to hard drive process. In retrospect, I think that there might
be an application called a launcher.

It would be helpful to have a list of command keystrokes for Linux, ORCA and
Speakup. I'm even wondering if the different Linux distributions have
different keystrokes. E.g. are alt+F1, alt+f2 and alt+F3 used by all the
Linuxes?

Where do I go from here?

Peter

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Samuel Thibault" <samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: How do I get to learn Linux & SpeakUp? Re: How to use espeakup


Peter Tesar, le Tue 22 Sep 2009 11:48:05 -0400, a écrit :
> All I have to work with is Windows XP and JAWS. I thought that it would be
> easier to chat with someone on your Reflector. The information sent me
> through this list service didn't help. Maybe I am doing something wrong or
> nobody is there to chat.
>
> Your web site http://linux-speakup.org/ is not helpful.

Then that's the place where things should be fixed.

> I would like to get started using Linux.

That's your question and that's what could be on the website if somebody
took the time to write the text.

> I haven't been successful with the distribution CD that I downloaded
> and burned.

Then it's probably a bug and in that case the mailing list is indeed
appropriate: please precisely describe what you have done, and what
result you got.

Samuel
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