system with speakup software already installed?

Kerry Hoath kerry at gotss.net
Fri Dec 19 22:23:50 EST 2008 

Then either wait for the release of lenny or upgrade to testing.

Building kernels with kernel-package is not difficult and the kernel package 
documents cover the procedure rather well.

Speakup will make it into distributions as out of kernel modules and so on; 
so either try viubuntu (not sure if it has speakup) or be patient.
Regards, Kerry.
Regards, Kerry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler at tysdomain.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?


>I have the headers for the newest kernel installed... I'm stuck relying on 
>debian to produce packages for me to upgrade as I'm not able to compile my 
>own kernels... not the way I want, anyway, so I don't see much purpose in 
>compiling a huge bloated kernel that has things in it that aren't needed.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Tyler Littlefield
> email: tyler at tysdomain.com
> web: tysdomain-com
> Visit for quality software and web design.
> skype: st8amnd2005
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry at gotss.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:48 PM
> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>
>
>> Then your boot loader is not booting the correct kernel.
>>
>> If using grub check your /boot/grub/menu.lst
>>
>> if using lilo; check your lilo.conf in /etc and also if using symbolic 
>> links
>> check that vmlinuz and vmlinuz.old are pointing at the kernels you expect 
>> them to point at.
>> Also note that uname works on the *running* kernel not what you might 
>> have installed.
>> My previous notes still apply; you need to build the kernel headers 
>> package with kernel-package;
>> and install it for the build symlink and headers to show.
>> Without the headers speakup won't build.
>>
>> You also must have the right kernel booted for a Sane compile 
>> environment.
>> Regards, Kerry.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler at tysdomain.com>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>> <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>>
>>
>>>I have read. and I'm telling you... I have another kernel installed. It's 
>>>falling back to 2.4 for some reason, though
>>> tds:/home/tyler# dpkg -l|grep linux-image
>>> ri  linux-image-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686          2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.4 
>>> Linux 2.6.24 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/
>>> ii  linux-image-2.6.26-1-686                    2.6.26-11 Linux 2.6.26 
>>> image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/
>>> ii  linux-image-686                             2.6.26+17 Linux image on 
>>> PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tyler Littlefield
>>> email: tyler at tysdomain.com
>>> web: tysdomain-com
>>> Visit for quality software and web design.
>>> skype: st8amnd2005
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry at gotss.net>
>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>>> <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
>>> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Read and read carefully: 2.6.26 or later.
>>>> 2.6 patch level 26
>>>> patch level 26 or later.
>>>>
>>>> your kernel is 2.6.24; see the returned string from uname -r you give:
>>>> 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
>>>>
>>>> this kernel is 2 patch levels too old.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> kernels which will not work: 2.6.25, 2.6.24 2.6.23 and earlier.
>>>>
>>>> You can put speakup into an earlier source tree but you'll need to 
>>>> patch it and this is not covered here.
>>>>
>>>> You'd need to upgrade to testing or unstable to get a newer kernel.
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Kerry.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler at tysdomain.com>
>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>>>> <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:29 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I've got 2.6 kernel, there are two installed. etch is falling back to 
>>>>> 2.4 for some stupid reason.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Tyler Littlefield
>>>>> email: tyler at tysdomain.com
>>>>> web: tysdomain-com
>>>>> Visit for quality software and web design.
>>>>> skype: st8amnd2005
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry at gotss.net>
>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>>>>> <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:27 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Your kernel is too old.
>>>>>> You need kernel 2.6.26 or later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debian stable is too crusty, as is Ubuntu 8.04.1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the build directory will show up once you install
>>>>>> apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this is a custom kernel then you need to build it with 
>>>>>> kernel_package not by hand.
>>>>>> make-kpgk --revision=guff.1 kernel_image kernel_headers
>>>>>> then install the 2 packages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If doing the kernel by hand you need to fix the build symbolic link 
>>>>>> to point to your unpacked kernel source tree;
>>>>>> or at least the headers from same.
>>>>>> Regards, Kerry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler at tysdomain.com>
>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>>>>>> <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:11 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hello,
>>>>>>> I'm only having one problem with this.
>>>>>>> I have the modules directory for /lib/modules/$(uname -r) but there 
>>>>>>> are no kernel headers, and the "build" directory doesn't exist.
>>>>>>> uname-r returns 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
>>>>>>> how would I generate the "build" directory under 
>>>>>>> /lib/modules/$(uname -r)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Tyler Littlefield
>>>>>>> email: tyler at tysdomain.com
>>>>>>> web: tysdomain-com
>>>>>>> Visit for quality software and web design.
>>>>>>> skype: st8amnd2005
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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