Slackware-Like Distros Was Re: Debian Mess
Robert Spangler
spangler.robert at gmail.com
Sun Aug 10 19:00:20 EDT 2008
If you like Slackware, you should have a look at Arch Linux. It is very
simple like Slackware but more advanced with a package manager, BSD-like
port system, and more.
Steve Holmes wrote:
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> I don't know quite the best way to answer your question right now.
> Tha lack of gnome natively in Slackware is one big draw-back to
> Slackware. I like slackware bad enough to try and install gnome
> separately. There are several gnome "mini distros" out there. I
> started with Drop Line gnome and it installed easily enough but I am
> quite disappointed that it has not been keeping up with latest gnome
> versions. I'm a bit afraid to upgrade my slackware 12.0 to 12.1 for
> it might mess up the drop line gnome packages. I'm tempted to go and
> upgrade to 12.1 and remove dropline and consider another gnome
> distro. I forget right now the names of others. For my non-gnome
> boxes, I'm inclined to stick with Slackware indefinitely but I'm
> really tempted to start over with Debian but I am very partial to the
> /etc file structure that Slackware uses; I'm not crazy about the
> System V structure used by Debian, Ubuntu, and Fedora.
>
> On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 04:53:27PM -0400, Robert Spangler wrote:
>> Is it easy to install Gnome in Slackware? That was one of my other
>> favorite distros and if I can do it on there it would be great.
>>
>>
>> Steve Holmes wrote:
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>>> Wow, it sounds like you fell into a hole and dug in some and now it is
>>> falling in on top of you. <smile> If you don't have too much invested
>>> in this setup, that is, not too much personal data or work of art or
>>> whatever, you may want to wipe and start over. I had to do that a
>>> while back with Slackware because I tried re-installing X after having
>>> part of Dropline Gnome installed and nothing worked right after that
>>> so I just blew it all away and started over with a brand new install
>>> of Slackware 12.0 at that time and then installed the gnome stuff and
>>> I've been OK since. I like Debian's dependancy tracking and all, but
>>> I wonder if it goes too far some times.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 02:48:58PM -0400, Robert Spangler wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Wow, this is messy. I attempted to aptitude remove at-spi and it offered
>>>> to fix some dependency issues by removing gnome-accessibility,
>>>> gnome-orca, and Dasher along with some other accessibility stuff. I
>>>> tried to find a way to prevent it from doing this but could not so ended
>>>> up letting it remove it all. Then when I tried to compile atk from
>>>> source, it complained that some stuff was missing like gettext and
>>>> gtk-doc. I couldn't find them as Debian packages so I installed them
>>>> from source. (I think part of this is that there isn't a section on the
>>>> Orca web site describing how to set up the build environment on Debian!)
>>>> so I went back there and followed the instructions for Ubuntu, thinking
>>>> they would be close enough. I did apt-get build-dep gnome-orca and
>>>> somewhere along the line some package called gnome-mag failed and insists
>>>> on failing. So I attempted to reinstall it but it still insists on
>>>> failing. Thinking that it may be a bug with the repository (I am using
>>>> unstable) I did a aptitude update and dist-upgrade. This brought up even
>>>> another mess! Remember how earlier I switched to lilo? Apparently, there
>>>> is a new kernel available and it thinks I still have grub, so it tried to
>>>> update my boot stuff by running a script called grub-update! LOL it's
>>>> all a mess. Ease of use?
>>>>
>>>> I love playing with other distros and have found Debian to be the easiest
>>>> as far as getting the desktop environment to work but still declare LFS
>>>> to be my favorite.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks all,
>>>> Robby
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