cursor questions and a reading question

Michael Whapples mwhapples at
Wed Nov 21 13:12:53 EST 2007

On Tue, 2007-11-20 at 23:02 -0800, Gaijin wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 04:28:16PM +1100, Daniel Dalton wrote:
> > Ok I open up the BRLTTY manual in my text editor. (emacs)
> > I press speakup key +down arrow on the numpad.
> > I hear speakup voice the first screen then it stops.
> > How do I make it read from the top of the document to the bottom.
> > And can I make it move the app cursor at the same time?
> > 
> > And another question:
> > If I put the speakup cursor somewhere can I move the application's 
> > cursor to that spot?
> > 
> I would suggest possibly looking at speechd-el ( or emacspeak if you are using emacs (speechd-el uses speech-dispatcher for output and can use brltty 3.7.2 to provide braille display support, whereas emacspeak only does speech output and may be harder to setup). I am still learning about speechd-el, but it looks like it is more powerful than using speakup with emacs (as speechd-el intergrates with emacs closely).
>   Press '+' (Plus) on the numeric keypad to read the entire
> screen.  If you toggle cursoring on by pressing the second from the
> top, right-most key on the numeric keypad, speakup's cursor will track
> with your program's cursor.  Unfortunately, it cannot move the program's
> cursor, as speakup is only aware of what's being displayed on the
> screen, and not what the software is or how it moves it's cursor.
> You'll basically need one hand on the cursor controls, and the other on
> the speakup controls.  I wish they made the cursor pad on the left of
> the alphanumeric keys, so it would be more convenient for people who
> like using both hands simultaneously.  I also wish they made braille key
> caps, too, but I guess we can't have everything.  Anyway, play around
> with it long enough and it will soon become second nature.  HTH,
> I don't know much of it, and have never actually physically seen one, but I think there has been a keyboard where the blocks were positioned differently (I think it was number pad or cursor keys or may be both were to the left of the main block of keys). As I said I know very little of that, other than that I think the manufacturers thought it might be useful to mouse users (who have the mouse in the right hand), but may be it wasn't successful as it doesn't seem to have become widely adopted.
>               Michael

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