jheim at math.wisc.edu
Thu Nov 1 11:20:21 EDT 2007
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From: "Albert E. Sten-Clanton" <albert.e.sten_clanton at verizon.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: editors
>I started with Emacs, but mostly use vi--or, more precisely, vim. You can
>screw yourself royally if you forget what mode you're in. Also, I've found
>that, unlike with Emacs, I don't hear what I'm backspacing over. Those are
>the drawbacks I live with regularly. As long as I remember what mode I'm
>in, though, I find it much easier to move around a document in vim than in
>Emacs, easier to copy and paste blocks of text, and much easier to change
>the settings that kick in when I start it. (I still don't know how to set
>autofill on or the line length to wrap at permanently in Emacs: it's
>doubtless somewhere in the manual, but sure not easy to find.) Also, I find
>the Emacs keystrokes often a nuisance, especially especially because
>there's only one working alt key, which apparently is a Linux thing.
Wow, that's interesting. Don't take this as a criticism by any means but
I've never heard of anyone switching from emacs to vi. Although, I've sort
of done that myself. I used emacspeak for years. But now that I primarily
use speakup, I use vi as my editor. Emacs is hard. I guess so is vi in it's
Actually, what I usually do is edit files remotely on a Windows machine. I
use a tool called sftpdrive. You can map a Windows drive letter to a machine
that runs ssh and edit files like they were on any other network share. Very
One thing bad about linux editorsYou have to learn them. I can switch from
notepad to TextPad to UltraEdit without having to figure out what keystrokes
to use with each program. Home puts you at the beginning of the line.
Shift+cursordown marks the line. Shift+Del cuts the line. Shift+Ins pastes
it. Control+f,s saves the file.
They all have their own keys for the fancy stuff but you can do the basics
without learning anything about the editor.
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