Speakup kernel patch dropped from Ububtu Gutsy

[Sérgio Neves]

I agree too.
I think working with speakup is faster than working with orca. There are 
people who like very much working on text consoles with a faster tool than 
working with the graphical environment.
And the beginners don't know how to compile the kernel (they and I can 
learn, but it's more efficient to have speakup without learning to do 
difficult tasks).
Well, if it's impossible to maintain, we'll have to live without it, but I 
think an important tool could not be put appart.

Thanks for the attention

Best regards

Sérgio Neves
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Whapples" <mikster4 at msn.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: Speakup kernel patch dropped from Ububtu Gutsy


> Couldn't agree more. With the simplicity of speakup, its always there. 
> Also
> even though orca supports gnome-terminal which can be used for command 
> line
> stuff, for some reason I seem to prefer to switch to a text console and 
> use
> speakup, and there are plenty of cases where I do use speakup rather than
> orca. Then there are those cases where orca doesn't work, what happens if 
> my
> X configuration is messed up and gnome just doesn't start, etc.
>
> As for compiling a kernel, yes I have done it, but having now used ubuntu
> where I had no great need to compile my own kernel, I probably would 
> prefer
> not to go back to compiling my own.
>
> From
> Michael Whapples
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gene Collins" <collins at gene3.ait.iastate.edu>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Speakup kernel patch dropped from Ububtu Gutsy
>
>
>>
>> To put it in language you'll understand, that stinks.  Not everyone
>> wants to use a gui interface.  There are still functions under the gui
>> that are not accessible.  As for the argument that Speakup is not
>> popular, you have only to look at the number of Speakup users on this
>> list.  As for the maintenance issue, speakup is no more difficult to
>> maintain than any other of the hundreds of modules that habitually are
>> included.  The thing that makes building your own kernel more difficult
>> is Ubuntu's insistence on using an initrd for a standard system.  All
>> the extra hardware discovery stuff isn't necessary once a system is
>> installed.  Besides which, without speakup, there is no way to do a
>> server install, and Speakup has never been included in a manner that
>> would allow a blind person to do an install from a server cd.  Mot to
>> mention the times when Orca or Gnome crashes in some fashion, and the
>> only way to recover things is by using Speakup from a text console.  If
>> you really have maintenence issues, talk to Kirk and find a way to
>> resolve them.  I think the decission to drop Speakup from Ubuntu is
>> extreemly short sighted.
>>
>> Gene Collins
>
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