Speakup kernel patch dropped from Ububtu Gutsy

[Michael Whapples]

Couldn't agree more. With the simplicity of speakup, its always there. Also 
even though orca supports gnome-terminal which can be used for command line 
stuff, for some reason I seem to prefer to switch to a text console and use 
speakup, and there are plenty of cases where I do use speakup rather than 
orca. Then there are those cases where orca doesn't work, what happens if my 
X configuration is messed up and gnome just doesn't start, etc.

As for compiling a kernel, yes I have done it, but having now used ubuntu 
where I had no great need to compile my own kernel, I probably would prefer 
not to go back to compiling my own.

From
Michael Whapples
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gene Collins" <collins at gene3.ait.iastate.edu>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: Speakup kernel patch dropped from Ububtu Gutsy


>
> To put it in language you'll understand, that stinks.  Not everyone
> wants to use a gui interface.  There are still functions under the gui
> that are not accessible.  As for the argument that Speakup is not
> popular, you have only to look at the number of Speakup users on this
> list.  As for the maintenance issue, speakup is no more difficult to
> maintain than any other of the hundreds of modules that habitually are
> included.  The thing that makes building your own kernel more difficult
> is Ubuntu's insistence on using an initrd for a standard system.  All
> the extra hardware discovery stuff isn't necessary once a system is
> installed.  Besides which, without speakup, there is no way to do a
> server install, and Speakup has never been included in a manner that
> would allow a blind person to do an install from a server cd.  Mot to
> mention the times when Orca or Gnome crashes in some fashion, and the
> only way to recover things is by using Speakup from a text console.  If
> you really have maintenence issues, talk to Kirk and find a way to
> resolve them.  I think the decission to drop Speakup from Ubuntu is
> extreemly short sighted.
>
> Gene Collins