apple's screen reader (was New Linux PDA For Blind People)
John Heim
jheim at math.wisc.edu
Fri Mar 31 10:51:44 EST 2006
My opinion is that this discussion belongs on the VoiceOver list, not here.
At 01:57 PM 3/30/2006, W. Nick Dotson wrote:
>What sound editing. ProTools isn't as yet accessible with Tiger, and who
>wants to run OS9 and OutSpoken? Again,
>programs are only as accessible on a Mac as programmers choose to make
>them by adhering to the strictly volunteery
>standards which make applications accessible to the not-Screen Reader.
>
>Nick
>
>On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:39:04 -0500, Travis Siegel wrote:
>
> What are you talking about?
> I use the mac every day. Email, file manipulation, cd/dvd playing, cd/
> dvd creating, online chatting, web browsing, word processing, and to
> some degree, even programming on the mac are completely 100%
> accessible. There's folks using it for sound editing, and podcast
> creation as well. If there's stuff you can't do on the mac, there's
> probably a third-party solution out there somewhere to do it.
> Admittedly, some of the programs aren't 100% accessible, but there's
> always workarounds. The shell prompt (they call it terminal) works,
> though not automatically, but if that's the worst I have to worry
> about with a machine, then I'd say it's a pretty good machine.
> Also, the apple provided dvd player won't let you get to the video
> described sound tracks on your dvd by yourself, but the softcon DVD
> player does (http://softcon.com/mac). and there's other developers
> working on things like producing audio mp3 files from text using the
> apple voices, and various other little things to make macs easier/
> better to use. I'd suggest going into your local apple store,
> sitting down with a mac, and trying it before insisting it's not
> usable. I think you might be surprised at how much you can do with it.
> On Mar 30, 2006, at 11:46 AM, Ann K. Parsons wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Interesting point of view. Not sure it's accurate, but definitely
> > interesting. <smiling> It may even work, if, I say if, the
> > mainstream market can be persuaded that it is just what is needed.
> > Somebody in this discussion used the illustration of the typewriter.
> > Good choice, why, because that device was, in the 1880s designed
> > specifically *for* a blind person so that person could write more
> > effectively.
> >
> > You may want to be careful when talking about Apple's screen reader.
> > I have heard that it is good, but it doesn't give sull access yet.
> > Perhaps there have been improvements?
> >
> > Ann P.
> >
> > --
> > Ann K. Parsons
> > email: akp at eznet.net
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> > "All that is gold does not glitter.
> > Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT
> >
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