getting orca included in gnome 2.16

[Jim Grimsby JR.]

Hi well if there was real support for access then only accessible programs
would be included in the one of a kind.
Also accessibility would be enabled by default.  
Also orca would be the one screen reader at this time for orca from what I
understand and read supports more devices working as it does with emacs
servers as well as gnome speech.
Just my thoughts.

Jim Grimsby JR.
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Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 4:25 PM
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Subject: Re: getting orca included in gnome 2.16


OK. My misunderstanding, so my apologies. I not sure I agree with only one
of each category as a policy, but that certainly isn't a discriminatory
policy, so it's a very different matter.

Holding back yelp over a11y is certainly a good indicator, as well. But, we
can't extrapolate from that that the entire desktop is vetted for a11y.
Certainly not epiphany or abi-word, right? That rather makes me wonder what
the basis of this "only one of a kind" policy is. However, it's clear my
sense of injustice was unwarranted.

Janina



Justin Ekis writes:
> On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 12:21:54PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > Are they also prepared to have only one web browser? ONly one media 
> > player? ONly one word processor? Only one email client application?
> If I understand correctly, they are talking about inclusion in the
> official gnome.org desktop release. and that is exactly the situation. 
> epiphany is the web browser, totem is the media player, gedit is the 
> word processor and evolution is the email application. 
> Look at ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/desktop/2.14/2.14.2/sources
> 
> > The day may come when there is but one screen reader on the GUI 
> > desktop, but I rather doubt it given that both Gnome and KDE are 
> > likely to remain with us. However, to proactively restrict inclusion 
> > while all manner of other (sometimes only half-baked) applications 
> > are included rankles.
> They said the GNOME desktop. The GNOME desktop release seems to have
> exactly one of everything and I doubt any of it is half baked. If it's 
> not in that directory it's not included in the official desktop.
> 
> > Frankly, it's an insult. This kind of grudging support for 
> >accessibility needs to be stopped  right now. In fact, it's a stretch 
> >to even call it "support." From my reading of the mailing lists, the 
> >new version of yelp was
> held out of  at least one and I think two desktop releases because it
> had accessibility regressions. That sounds like support to me.
> 
> 
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