apple's screen reader (was New Linux PDA For Blind People)

[hank smith]

what about non command players

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Travis Siegel" <tsiegel at softcon.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: apple's screen reader (was New Linux PDA For Blind People)


> Already addressed, but here's a partial list.
> To replace itunes, you can use:
> vlc, quicktime, real player, audacity, audio hijack,  and various  
> command-line utilities if you don't mind using the terminal application.
> This is of course, only a partial list, depending on what you were  
> planning on using ITunes for.  If you want the itunes store, there's  
> nothing to replace it, unless you use audible, since most of it's  
> content is available on the itunes store.  However, in general itunes  
> can be avoided except in the case of a very few specialized tasks  
> such as playing audible content since audible has an itunes plugin  
> that allows playing audible content on the mac.
> On Apr 2, 2006, at 4:22 PM, hank smith wrote:
> 
>> what alternitive players is there besides itunes?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jane Jordan (gmail)" <juanitatighan at gmail.com>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."  
>> <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 4:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: apple's screen reader (was New Linux PDA For Blind  
>> People)
>>
>>
>>> Actually iTunes is usable to some extent--honest.  You just have to
>>> remember where you are on the screen.  Mind you, there are
>>> alternative players that I mostly use now.  iTunes is somethingI use
>>> mainly fr when I want music that's playing selected for my
>>> LiveJournal entries that I do on this machine.
>>>
>>> Jane
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 2, 2006, at 4:30 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>>>
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>>>> I didn't get a lot of time to really get down and use Voice Over
>>>> heavily
>>>> but I did give Itunes a try.  Forget it! Itunes was quieter than a
>>>> church mouse! I understand applications have to be built in Coco
>>>> framework in order for Voice Over to work.  Itunes and the ports of
>>>> Microsoft Office are in Carbon; I was told that Carbon apps just  
>>>> flat
>>>> don't work in Voice Over.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 01:39:04PM -0500, Travis Siegel wrote:
>>>>> What are you talking about?
>>>>> I use the mac every day. Email, file manipulation, cd/dvd playing,
>>>>> cd/
>>>>> dvd creating, online chatting, web browsing, word processing,  
>>>>> and to
>>>>> some degree, even programming on the mac are completely 100%
>>>>> accessible.  There's folks using it for sound editing, and podcast
>>>>> creation as well.  If there's stuff you can't do on the mac,  
>>>>> there's
>>>>> probably a third-party solution out there somewhere to do it.
>>>>> Admittedly, some of the programs aren't 100% accessible, but  
>>>>> there's
>>>>> always workarounds.  The shell prompt (they call it terminal)  
>>>>> works,
>>>>> though not automatically, but if that's the worst I have to worry
>>>>> about with a machine, then I'd say it's a pretty good machine.
>>>>> Also, the apple provided dvd player won't let you get to the video
>>>>> described sound tracks on your dvd by yourself, but the softcon DVD
>>>>> player does (http://softcon.com/mac). and there's other developers
>>>>> working on things like producing audio mp3 files from text using  
>>>>> the
>>>>> apple voices, and various other little things to make macs easier/
>>>>> better to use.  I'd suggest going into your local apple store,
>>>>> sitting down with a mac, and trying it before insisting it's not
>>>>> usable.  I think you might be surprised at how much you can do
>>>>> with it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - --
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