Debian question

Sean McMahon smcmahon at usgs.gov
Wed Oct 19 19:14:37 EDT 2005


> Actually that is a fine idea, but I know what the messages are in
> this case. My wife is handy in these cases and generally costs
> less..big grin. Well not true cause over the long-term, its more
> costly to have a wife, but nevertheless she much nicer than the
> card..grin.
This is what I've heard but apparently the return on investment on a wife these
days can be through the roof
.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Howell" <n3byy at adelphia.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: Debian question


> Actually that is a fine idea, but I know what the messages are in
> this case. My wife is handy in these cases and generally costs
> less..big grin. Well not true cause over the long-term, its more
> costly to have a wife, but nevertheless she much nicer than the
> card..grin.
> Actually in my case Speakup for whatever reason is having some issue
> with probing the serial port and even if I try loading software
> speech once the box is booted by removing the synth, I can't get
> Speakup to talk, it just seems to hang while loading the module.
> Speakup is not a module itself, but is built into the kernel. This is
> my problem. Pretty crazy ay?
>
> tnx
>
> On Oct 19, 2005, at 10:18 AM, John G. Heim wrote:
>
> > This probably won't really help you much because it's expensive and
> > it's not really a solution but I just thought I'd mention that
> > there is a tool that is really helpful in debugging boot problems.
> > It's a PC Weasel.
> >
> > You put this card in your machine replacing the video card. The
> > operating system recognizes it as a video card except that instead
> > of video output it has a serial port. So you can connect a null-
> > modem cable to it and another machine running a terminal emulator
> > and get the boot messages.  I use it a lot when I have a machine
> > that won't boot or when I'm trying to make a bootable CD. It costs
> > like $300 though.
> >
> > It really works well with speakup because it doesn't interfere with
> > speakup in any way. The operating system isn't aware that there is
> > anything different about the VGA card other than that it is an
> > unrecognized type of card. So it treats it like a generic VGA
> > card.  If you have some kind of problem, you can plug in the null-
> > modem cable and get whatever is on the screen, whether it be boot
> > messages or a login prompt or whatever.
> >
> >
> > PS: I think I have a problem  similar to yours. I  installed the
> > speakup modified 2.6.12 kernel on a machine that had a unmodified
> > 2.6.8 kernel. It won't boot unless my external doubletalk  LE is
> > connected and turned on. And when it does boot, I get no speech.
> > There is nothing wrong with my synth. And speakup appears to know
> > it's there since if it's turned off, it won't boot at all. It's
> > exam week so I haven't had time to check out what's really
> > happening yet.  I was running debian sarge so I am not sure that
> > you'll have any luck if you go back to sarge.
> >
> > Oh, one thing I'd suggest... Make sure your disk partitions aren't
> > full. Check especially / and /boot.
> >
> >
> >
> > At 05:08 PM 10/18/2005, Scott wrote:
> >
> >> Folks, I have a question regarding a Debian install.
> >> First seeing as I have little hope of correcting the problems with my
> >> current Sid install as I can't get speech from Speakup, I am
> >> considering reinstalling Sarge.
> >> What I was wondering is how possible would it be to simply install
> >> over the current Sid installation. My thinking is that I can keep a
> >> number of apps that were previously working with Sarge before
> >> upgrading to Sid and most if not everything would be replaced when I
> >> install Sarge. I know this is probably an insane approach, but I of
> >> course would rather figure out why Speakup hangs while probing for
> >> the DoubleTalk external. I do not have another synth to connect so I
> >> have to use this one. It was working fine before I upgraded to the
> >> latest version of Sid and even replacing Lilo with Grub did not
> >> correct the problem. It also seems to matter little what kernel I'm
> >> running as I even grabbed a 2.6.13 and brewed a new kernel.
> >> Sure am lost on this one, but before I do get into this install, I
> >> thought I'd ask a few questions and maybe avoid loads of setting up
> >> again.
> >> I know wishfull thinking.
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >
> > --
> > John G. Heim
> > jheim at math.wisc.edu
> > 3-4189
> >
> >
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