speakup fedora core howto

[Janina Sajka]

Yeah, it is clearly more helpful to send someone to a hash offset in the
HOWTO, but that means I have to go look it up. Sometimes, that's more
than I can do for whatever reason.

jim grimsby writes:
> Hi,
> Then if I spoke out of turn again I must humbly apologize.  My
> impression was that he was having trouble getting gnopernicus working
> not having trouble getting fc3 installed.  
> Gnopernicus does not work yet over here yet and I rtfm everything I can
> find so far on getting it working. The debian package that is built in
> just will not work for the life of me.  I am going to check out a copy
> from cvs later and see if I can make that work.  Even if you think the
> manual he should be reading is oveus you might want to inform him to
> reread section x.x of said manual.  
> For example in section x of the howto it clearly states to use a server
> install and to select everything everything will give you just that
> everything.  
> For more information see the manual.  
> Just my thoughts.  
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 6:34 AM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: speakup fedora core howto
> 
> 
> To the contrary. The RTFM, in this instance, is sitting in the subject
> line of this email thread.
> 
> >From the messages he's posted, it's very clear he hasn't read it very
> carefully.
> 
> jim grimsby writes:
> > Hi,
> > This is the attitude below that turns off the new user! 
> > Quite often the user has know idea where to rtfm as you put it.  
> > If you are going to refer the user to documentation it might be a good
> > idea to refair them to a section of the manual explaining what ever it
> > is they are asking about. 
> > Also not every user understands what the manual is talking about.  
> > As far as gnopernicus goes I do not see a manual page nor a info page
> on
> > it.  
> > It is not covered in any of the users guide I have seen so far.  
> > So where do we go to rtfm as you put it.  
> > Remember experts out there that you were a new user once.  
> > Also remember experts out there that in one place you are an expert in
> > others you might be a novus.  
> > Remember experts who have decided to be teachers andsuporters of the
> > program that reading manuals is good but a person needs to know what
> > manual to read. 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca 
> > [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt
> > Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 8:05 AM
> > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> > Subject: Re: speakup fedora core howto
> > 
> > 
> > Hi.
> > 
> > Startx won't beep.  You really need to go learn the basics of X.
> > 
> > Once again! RTFM
> > 
> >           Kenny
> > 
> > On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 10:56:16AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > > I have tried running gnopernicus in personal desktop type install 
> > > and
> > > also
> > > in workstation type mode as well as server type.  The personal
> desktop
> > and
> > > workstation types failed completely.  The software was put onto the
> > system
> > > to run, but no speech in either of those installation types.  tried
> > both
> > > telinit 5 and startx.  Startx so far doesn't work in server type 
> > > over
> > here
> > > but telinit 5 did work.  I expect the custom type to do no better 
> > > than
> > 
> > > personal desktop or workstation. The startx command never gets to 
> > > the
> > > short beep on any of these installation types.
> > > 
> > > 
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Janina Sajka				Phone: +1.202.494.7040
Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC	http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com

Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
janina at freestandards.org		http://a11y.org

If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.