speakup fedora core howto

[jim grimsby]

Hi,
Then if I spoke out of turn again I must humbly apologize.  My
impression was that he was having trouble getting gnopernicus working
not having trouble getting fc3 installed.  
Gnopernicus does not work yet over here yet and I rtfm everything I can
find so far on getting it working. The debian package that is built in
just will not work for the life of me.  I am going to check out a copy
from cvs later and see if I can make that work.  Even if you think the
manual he should be reading is oveus you might want to inform him to
reread section x.x of said manual.  
For example in section x of the howto it clearly states to use a server
install and to select everything everything will give you just that
everything.  
For more information see the manual.  
Just my thoughts.  


-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 6:34 AM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: speakup fedora core howto


To the contrary. The RTFM, in this instance, is sitting in the subject
line of this email thread.

>From the messages he's posted, it's very clear he hasn't read it very
carefully.

jim grimsby writes:
> Hi,
> This is the attitude below that turns off the new user! 
> Quite often the user has know idea where to rtfm as you put it.  
> If you are going to refer the user to documentation it might be a good
> idea to refair them to a section of the manual explaining what ever it
> is they are asking about. 
> Also not every user understands what the manual is talking about.  
> As far as gnopernicus goes I do not see a manual page nor a info page
on
> it.  
> It is not covered in any of the users guide I have seen so far.  
> So where do we go to rtfm as you put it.  
> Remember experts out there that you were a new user once.  
> Also remember experts out there that in one place you are an expert in
> others you might be a novus.  
> Remember experts who have decided to be teachers andsuporters of the
> program that reading manuals is good but a person needs to know what
> manual to read. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca 
> [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt
> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 8:05 AM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: speakup fedora core howto
> 
> 
> Hi.
> 
> Startx won't beep.  You really need to go learn the basics of X.
> 
> Once again! RTFM
> 
>           Kenny
> 
> On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 10:56:16AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > I have tried running gnopernicus in personal desktop type install 
> > and
> > also
> > in workstation type mode as well as server type.  The personal
desktop
> and
> > workstation types failed completely.  The software was put onto the
> system
> > to run, but no speech in either of those installation types.  tried
> both
> > telinit 5 and startx.  Startx so far doesn't work in server type 
> > over
> here
> > but telinit 5 did work.  I expect the custom type to do no better 
> > than
> 
> > personal desktop or workstation. The startx command never gets to 
> > the
> > short beep on any of these installation types.
> > 
> > 
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