Planning a VoiceOver Main Menu Review

[Karen Lewellen]

As I understand it, there is nothing to install at all.
its a part of the system.
Karen

On Mon, 2 May 2005, Sean McMahon wrote:

> If voiceover is built-in, does this mean you can configure/install a whole
> operating system from scratch without sited assistance?  I don't know how more
> built-in you could get then speakup which is patched into the kernel.  If you
> mean comes with linux, well what comes with linux depends on you really.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at rednote.net>
> To: "Jane Lee" <applegoddess at gmail.com>; "Speakup is a screen review system for
> Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 4:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Planning a VoiceOver Main Menu Review
>
>
>> I have a hard time conceivingg of a kernel based access as "stand
>> alone."
>>
>> Still, but really tickles me is that you mention Speakup in the same
>> breath with JAWS, and you even mention it first.
>>
>> Seems we've arrived.
>>
>> Jane Lee writes:
>>> I'd just like to make it clear that VoiceOver is built into the Mac OS
>>> X operating system, not a standalone program like speakup or Jaws.
>>> After Freedom Scientific and others gave up on the Mac platform
>>> because of the even smaller market, Apple and their devs figured they
>>> should do all of the accessibility work in house, and that's how
>>> VoiceOver started.
>>>
>>> You cannot, I repeat, cannot, port VoiceOver to another OS like
>>> Windows or Linux.  It relies on the Mac OS too much.  This also means
>>> that VoiceOver cannot work on an iPod.
>>>
>>> On another matter, the cheapest Mac out there is 500 dollars, and is
>>> called the Mac mini.  Since the new operating system came out on the
>>> 29th of April, as of now, if you go online or to a store and buy the
>>> Mac mini, it will come with the OS and VoiceOver.  If you're planning
>>> on going out maybe today or within the next week, inquire about
>>> whether or not it comes with Tiger, which is the OS that VoiceOver
>>> comes with, and not Panther just in case.  Be warned, the Mac mini
>>> does not come with a keyboard, a mouse or a monitor.  This computer
>>> was meant for PC and Mac users already with older computers that don't
>>> mind keeping their old setups.  Mac laptops, such as the iBook or the
>>> Powerbook, start at around 1000 dollars.
>>>
>>> Voiceover is not an additional application that you have to pay for,
>>> it comes with the OS, which is 129 dollars.  Some third party
>>> retailers will have it at a discounted price, while schools, teachers
>>> and college students will be able to buy the OS from Apple or a
>>> university bookstore at the education price, which is 69 dollars.  A
>>> "family pack" that gives you a license for use up to 5 computers is
>>> 200 dollars but has restrictions and only comes with one install disk.
>>>
>>> Personally, I haven't been able to try out VoiceOver much on my Mac,
>>> but I found that the accessible installation of OS X, the VoiceOver
>>> enabled login menu and the overall integration makes it fun and easy
>>> to use.  There's no serial number to install the OS and there's no
>>> activation (like Windows) either.
>>>
>>> If you have any specifics on how to use a Mac, go to the local Apple
>>> retail store and ask one of the people there.  The genius bar at all
>>> the stores should be able to help you out with setup (like turning on
>>> VoiceOver for the first time).  If you have technical questions on
>>> problems with your Mac, feel free to drop me an email :)  I can help
>>> out with most of the smaller issues.
>>>
>>> If you're looking for anything in particular though (about Apple,
>>> their computers, anything, really) feel free to drop me an email.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> jane
>>>
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>> --
>>
>> Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040
>> Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com
>>
>> Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG)
>> janina at freestandards.org http://a11y.org
>>
>> If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.
>>
>>
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